Urgent help needed Fish might have Velvet

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  1. blackghostknife

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    HI All

    My Clowns look like they have Velvet? I bought Prodibio Spots & Velvets, the LFT said it will help. does anyone know or used this product before?
     
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    Some close-up pictures of your fish would help
     
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    It look exactly like this!

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    Ok suppose that is velvet , I dont have details or info on the prodibio spots and velvet but what I do know is that once your fish reaches the stage of infection shown on the picture that you provided , even the best products out there is not going to cure your fish( Im sure you did a-little research on net which tells you the same) and Im sure the guy at your LFS advised you the alike, so the prodibio's not going to make a difference. Sorry
     
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    I use waterlife cuprazin in my qt on my picasso trigger n he was almost cured in 3 days....cuprazin is very toxic and you have to be very precise with the dosage n directions....
     
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    Thanx guys, and @seahunter you were correct both clowns gone this morning! :(

    What is the best way forward now? leave the tank empty with my corals running in it?
     
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    dude i had the same problem i think the Prodibio made it worst i lost both of them after two days of treatment
     
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    One day of treatment and that was that! all I have left is my cleaner shrimp and my corals!! What a Monday!
     
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    Sorry to hear about that dude.....leave your tank fishless for at least 3 to 4 weeks...the parasites need fish to survive so they will eventually die off
     
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    Also try and get your temp up to about 27..... This will speed up the lifecycle of the parasite.
     
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    Seachem Cupramine is the best medication for velvet IME (and it's also usable with most copper sensitive fish). But as they others said, once a fish gets that heavily infected then it's often too late. This is why medicated quarantine is a good idea.
     
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    IMHO i don't think it was velvet. Most likely brook (Brooklynella). Especially if the fish went that fast.
     
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    Could have been Brooklynella...especially with clowns. Velvet is usually the more deadly of the two though. Same treatment either way.
     
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    HI @Nemos Janitor

    I think your correct, i just did some resource and all the systems are there, Thank you for the help! would you suggest I carry on with the medication, or stop and just keep it fish-less for 4 weeks?
     
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    ive stopped using the treatment after the 3rd vial. all my other fish and inverts seem to be fine. its been about 2weeks since clowns died so im hoping my other fish wont be at risk
     
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    Thanx Zuna

    But my question is, this was sold to me, and I was told this is the best stuff R190 later! What I have heard from everyone here, is its a load of bull this product?
     
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    Not sure what the active ingredients in Prodibio Spots & Velvets is, but if it is copper and the disease is Brooklynella, then the medication will not work as copper is ineffective to brooklynella. Best medication is FW bath and or Formaldehyde in conjunction with malachite green. Medications with Quinacrine are also OK.

    I agree that LFS just issuing medications without ascertaining the disease "P" off the reefer. Something SAPTA should look into training the LFS to do scrapings to stop wrong remedies being sold.
     
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    I agree 100%, i will have a look at all the active ingredients in the Prodibio Spots & Velvets range and post later.
     
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    Ok well I typed the ingredients that on the box, I have no idea what this stuff does.

    I have stopped the dossing after only using one vile.

    0.10mg of 6,9-Diamino-2ethoxyacridine-DL-Lactate monohydrate
    0.05 mg of Hexamethylparaosaniline chloride
    1.25mg of N,N,N,N-Tetramethyl-4,4'-diamino triphenylcarbenium oxalate (malachite green oxalate)
    0.10mg of 3,7-dis (Dimethylamino) phenazathionium chloride (methylene blue)
     
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    OK i do not know 6,9-Diamino-2ethoxyacridine-DL-Lactate monohydrate and cannot find any referance to its effectiveness to Brooklynella
    OK this is Rivanol. It is used as an antibacterial on wounds and sores.


    Gention violet has antibacterial and antifungal properties so OK for velvet and secondary bacterial infection. Most likely included for the secondary bacterial infection.

    Malachite green is used against Brooklynella but is usually used in conjunction with Formaldehyde.

    Methylene blue is used for Brooklynella but is not very effective.

    From the above it is possible that this remedy MAY work against Brooklynella. But it seems that it is more of a general cure than a medication targeted at Brooklynella. This is most likely why it works on some cases and not on others.

    I am not an expert on medications but this is my understanding of the product. Hope the info helps.
     
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