Fish Id Please Please

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  1. seank

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    Id on these fish please, and some specs regarding them being reefsafe or not?

    Thank you...

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    And then this one...

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    Awsum fish, i just dont know what they are, never seen them before. Really like the fish in pic no1.
     
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    first fish, sailfin leaf fish , Taenionotus triacanthus,
    Second fish , six stripe soapfish , Grammistes sexlineatus,
    The soap fish is a nocturnal predator so beware, big time,

    The sailfin leaffish would mostly enjoy live food as it is part of the scorpion fish family.

    I stand corrected on the id of the first fish, but am 99% certian will look for him in one of my books later.
     
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    Ok according to Dr. H.R. Axelrod ( Author of Exotic Marine Fishes ) i am right with the id on fish one, but its a old book.
     
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    sean hav given id on sark! The first is a scorpion and no 2 is a extreemly noxious soap fish capible of wiping out your entire tank over night
     
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    Mike mentioned that the first fish is called a "Frog Fish". It is a small fish and quite flat. But it looks like a leaf. Could this just be another name for it??

    Any of these fish reefsafe, as I got them on a reef (just not too sure if tanksafe)???
     
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    You sure Calvin???
     
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    sean i wouldnt put either of them into your system! that isnt a leaf fish but a venomouse scorpion
     
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    im pretty sure ive kept many leaf fish and none of them looked like that
     
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    Family: Scorpaenidae (Scorpionfishes or rockfishes)
    , subfamily: Scorpaeninae picture (Tatri_ud.jpg) by Tyler, E.
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    Order: Scorpaeniformes (scorpionfishes and flatheads) Class: Actinopterygii (ray-finned fishes) FishBase name:Leaf scorpionfishMax. size: 10.0 cm TL (male/unsexed; Ref. 4313)Environment: reef-associated; non-migratory ; depth range 5 - 134 m Climate: tropical; 30°N - 30°SGlobal Importance: aquarium: commercialResilience: Medium, minimum population doubling time 1.4 - 4.4 years (Preliminary K or Fecundity.)Distribution: Indo-Pacific: East Africa to the Galapagos Islands, north to Ryukyu and Hawaiian islands, south to Australia and the Tuamoto Islands. Diagnosis: Dorsal spines (total): 12-12; Dorsal soft rays (total): 8-11; Anal spines: 3-3; Anal soft rays: 5-6. Tan to reddish or brown in color (Ref. 4313). Has prickly papillae instead of scales. Dorsal fin high, 3rd or 4th spine longest; suborbital ridge without spines or with lump at head of ridge; preopercle with 2 indistinct spines only; body extremely compressed; soft dorsal fin attached to the caudal fin; coloration is variable, from nearly all yellow to red, brown or nearly black and variously mottled with darker pigment (Ref. 10482). Biology: Inhabits reef flats, outer reef slopes, current-swept channels, and rarely on lagoon reefs. Solitary and usually immobile among algae or seagrass but effects hip movements resembling that of a leaf falling down from a tree. Molts twice a month with the skin breaking off first in the head region. Has the habit of mimicking a dead leaf by swaying from side to side (Ref. 37816). Feeds on small crustaceans and fishes (Ref. 9710); also feeds on larvae (Ref. 5503). Venomous spines. Also Ref. 57406 Threatened: Not in IUCN Red List , (Ref. 36508) Dangerous: venomous , Randall, J.E., G.R. Allen and R.C. Steene. 1990 Coordinator: [SIZE=-1][/SIZE]Main Ref: Myers, R.F.. 1991. (Ref. 1602)Update | Add
     
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    Calvin, you half right. It seems to be a Leaf Scorpion Fish
     
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    well close enough as true leaf fish rent venomouse
     
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    Sean,
    How did u get the pics of the fish?
    Neil
     
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    Difficult to take a photo for an Id if fish is swimming inside a Coolerbox.So I put a little water inside a small bowl and put the fish seperately inside just long enough to take a photo.
     
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