Filling a Tank

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  1. Shaun

    Shaun Retired Moderator

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    I am looking for feedback on filling a Tank

    1 make sure the stand is level
    2 put tank on and check level.

    What if their is a gap between level stand and bottom of tank ?

    Does one add some water and adjust stand to fill the gap, but still keep the tank level?
     
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    Will you be putting polystyrene under the tank?

    Sorry mate not sure i understand - how can there be a gap between the tank and stand?
     
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    If tank and stand are not level, stress points will be created with in the glass walls. This will/potentially cause seam failure.
     
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    Shaun Thread Starter Retired Moderator

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    New pol and new piece of wood.

    Stand was galvanized so it may be warped.
     
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    Hi Thalion - as Wee-Man suggested....... You should add some material (e.g. polystyrene) that allows expansion and contraction that the heat differences between the stand and the glass does not crack or damage the tank in any ways.

    AND, then, if there are ANY gaps (stand not 100% square or perhaps tank not 100% square) then this material will assist in sorting that out too. It is important to try and get/keep your tank 100% level.....

    Good luck with filling your tank! This weekend hey?
     
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    You need to check to make sure it is level, if not can you put something between the tank and stand to level it up properly?
     
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    Just remember the polystyrene mostly helps to eliminate local hot spots caused by things such as grains of sand, pieces of metal etc. It does not really help with correcting errors in level or a warped stand, simply because polystyrene compresses well when local hot spots are present (think 1mm x 1mm piece of sand), but does not compress significantly over bigger areas.

    To give you an idea, I cannot measure any noticeable compression in the polystyrene between my 2000L tank (which contains 2000L of water and weights at least 700kg itself - hence almost 3 tonnes) and its square tubing stand.
     
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    True - then I would say that if the stand is warped -it would/should be a no-go then.
     
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    Kanga Retired Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Make sure the stand is standing level on the floor, if not you can put polystyrene under the legs.

    If the tank itself is warped, i would rather sort it out than take the chance of phoning mates @ 2 am to help mop and move livestock
     
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    To sum up?

    Hermann,
    you're right, as well as others have noted, about levelling of floor and stand, relative to stand and tank.

    AND you'd want something like commercial-industrial carpetblock,"DENSE" expanded polyurethane/polystyrene or vinyl flooring sections, or at a push if ideal items unavailable ..hardboardblocks.

    I avoid the last, being woodbased, it gets soggy eventually and can't be relied upon.

    Idea here is limited compressibility coupled with sufficient weight distribution.

    Visualise, how MOST polystyrene grades would deform short-term,with MASS, salt residue and moisture.

    Agreed, you get heavy duty polystyrene, but other expanded foam or rubber just work better UNDER a stand.

    Even LESS likely to call buds over at 2am...UNLESS you ask them over to help with a LIQUID HAZARD AREA...

    nudge nudge a fully STOCKED BAR is a hazard....heheh

    FOR Between TANK and STAND.
    Best overall, is a weatherproof PLY about 10mm upto 1.2m tank, 15-19mm upto 2-3m length, overlaid with decent grade poly/sheet material.

    Standardply is rendered saltwater and tanksafe with a sealant/protectant like woodoc 55.

    Ja, galvanising tends to CRAMP AND WARP metal a bit.
    I find, pretesting stand level, on actual squared flooring AND in proposed location helps tremendously!

    Do this with some sort of load to simulate final use.
    YOU OR Your ironworking friend/s, may TAP stand shape into more suitable LEG STANCE/POSITION.

     
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    Shaun Thread Starter Retired Moderator

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    With some weight on it, it has leveled its self out. Been running for around 4 hours.
    All fine at the moment.
     
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    good thing i didnt galvanize my new stand then.shot for the info Liaqut
     
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    :lol: i suppose a bloody great tank full of water would do that - is it still level?
     
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    Shaun Thread Starter Retired Moderator

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    I have found that in the passed about steel been galvanized, but just wanted to see what you guys do about leveling a tank.

    MASA has thread about drilling glass, making sumps well all sorts but nothing about leveling a tank.

    Thanks guy, if you have anymore suggestion you know what to do.
     
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    Mekaeel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    my floor is totally messed up.ive leveled my tank using stainless steel plates
     
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    Mike Retired Moderator

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    I used coins under my steel frame but as it was of 40mm steel - i could have parked the car on it.
     
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    Shaun Thread Starter Retired Moderator

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    Yes it is, thx.

    The tank is outside and I was sitting inside, the next thing we heard glass shatter. I run outside expecting to see the tank in bits. It was a piece of 6mm glass that I had put aside to use for my new refiguim. The wind had blown it over.:cursing:
     
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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i bet your heart stopped, at least it wasn't the tank.
     
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    oh yes same with me,when i ran outa steel plates also used coins on one end
     
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    Mike Retired Moderator

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    thing is, my mate made that frame so strong that i could have just left the coins at one end, the other end just hung in mid air with over a tonne of water on it:)


    ***PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS***
     
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