February photo comp-Theme: general fish (open thread)

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  1. crispin

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    Ok here goes feb's photo comp.
    this month we are looking for fish shots. No limit to which fish other than they need to be marine and alive:)

    closeups, full fish, fish in a specific situation etc etcm, it all goes.

    This is the 'open thread' i will get the sticky made for final submisions made too.

    This month we are adding a slight difference in that we will make two sections, those with DSLR and those with point and shoot cameras. frankly competing against hennies cannon mark 5 d is rather tough, so we are aiming it a little easier for those without a dslr.

    So one section for point and shoot and one for DSLR's.

    BUT please make sure that you shhot in alarge format so that if you get a winning shot then we can use it for printing.

    have fun:)
     
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    good stuff now can join in all the fun
     
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    yes, we will even accept pics of dory :)
     
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    :yeahdude: woop woop....il get cracking:biggrin:
     
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    PHEW atleast we agree on that :) puffers are fantastic to photograph though :)
     
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    wow preshan thats a good first effort and a very beautiful fish so definatley worth trying again:) There are a few things that detract a little from the pic IMVHO and i think they would be easy to rectify, which might well give you a great pic if you try it again.

    Firstly with the sbject swiming down and away like that it mas one feel as if you are realy disturbing him and thats a pitty. If you could shoot the fish while he is horizontal and or swiming slightly towards the camera youd have a far better pose.

    Clean the glass:) it sounds a little silly to say it all the time but the slightest dirt on the glass always shows (especially if you use flash)

    T depth of field might be worth working on too. the SPS in the background are good but neither in focus or blurred. Personally i think a slightly higher F stop and thus more blurred background would be great as you would have the hint of the reef with the different colours and the fish in sharp focus. You obviopusly have good lights and thus youd be able to achieve this and still have a low ISO setting.You could also widen the app too, and get a shallower DOF so that fish and corals are all in focus and that way have the fish in a 'setting; as such. At the moment i just feel you are in between the two.

    I would also crop the shot slightly so as to have all the effects and advantages of a polario without seeing the fugly machine :)

    in short you have all the incrediants needed to get a very good photo and i would definatley try shoot that PB again, and the other fish you have.
     
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    hmmm sally is truley a creatchure where 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' :)
     
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    thanks for the advise crispin taking photos is a whole new ball game i guess that's
    the beauty of having a marine tank you learn many new skills
     
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    I don't know if you made an oops with the higher f-stop reducing DOF, or if I don't understand it correctly. I thought that the f-stop was the apperture? Ie. f2.8 is a big apperture with blurry fore and background and a high f22 being a smaller apperture creating more focus in the fore and background.
     
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    You have it right Mudshark. The aperture is represented as focal length divided by aperture ie. f/2.8. A "higher f-stop" usually means a smaller aperture because the number is higher, so divided by more = smaller.

    f/2.8 is big with a small DoF.
    f/22 everything will be in focus but stuff might blur because the shutter has to stay open for longer because it's not getting a lot of light.
     
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    The depth of field might be worth working on too. the SPS in the background are good but neither in focus or blurred.

    Personally i think a slightly higher F stop (larger number) will lessen the size of the appature which in turn reduces the depth of field and thus more blurred background would be great as you would have the hint of the reef with the different colours and the fish in sharp focus.

    You obviously have good lights and thus you would be able to achieve this and still have a low ISO setting.

    You could also widen the app too (make it a lower f-stop), and get a shallower DOF so that fish and corals are all in focus and that way have the fish in a 'setting; as such. At the moment i just feel you are in between the two.

    does that make any more sence?
     
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    Could I ask that you guys post what Camera you are using and what wetting you took the shot at. This will help a lot when looking at these images and will also help guys trying to learn.
     
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    wetting of photographic equipment is best left to Ross, he knows why he does it, i dont. for the rest a set of settings would be very useful:)

    Ross dude, reply to my pm:)
     
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    That tang is awesome !
     
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    CRISPIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your PM box is full, make space NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    give me a bigger bloody inbox!


    ooops sorry missed the fact that you are a mod.


    space made boss!
     
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    JB thats a good pic no doubts and the colours are fantastic, but there is alot of room to improve :) I'm not trying to ripp pics apart, what we are aiming at with these comp threads is to help people evaluate and think about the pics you are taking, so please read the comments in that light:)

    the anthia is a real beaut and having tht fish with a slight curve to its body makes for a great use of the different colours on the fish. Did you enhance the colors post shooting by any chance?

    i think your shutter speed was just a fraction too slow which is why you ahve motion blurr in the particles in the water and that really detracts from the pic. Try shoot at as high a shutter speed you can, this would help lots.

    You should definatley look at cropping the clown out as well as the slightly white section on the LR in lower part of the frame. That would improve the pic i feel :)
     
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    Umm, if I may disagree... the way that I've always understood this is that the larger F-stop (aperture number) = smaller aperture hole = less light transmission = greater depth of field, and thus less blurred background... have I got it all wrong :confused:

    Would it be (ethically) acceptable to clone in some non-distracting background, such as some of the blurred live rock next to the white area?

    Hennie
     
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    i often think backwards, so that still makes sence to me ????:whistling:
     
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    Um yeah love dipping the 50D into the tank, find the saltwater gets a lot of the dust off, especially the sensor.

    I tried to reply to you last night, but your mailbox was full, have sent details today.
     
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