Urgent help needed Electrical current in the water ( skimmer )

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  1. Xereo

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    Well i put my hand in my sump to clean it and i got a tingling sensation.
    started turning things off one by one.

    Its my Ts2 skimmer thats giving off the current.
    ( im Bare Foot )

    Is there anything to worry about?
     
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    except for choking urself not really, but it will be good to try and find where the problem is specifically is with the skimmer. and try to ground it to the stand of the tank
     
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    Switch off every piece of equipment in the tank one by one to find the problem by process of elimination. Unfortunately you will have to use your hand as the guinea pig
     
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    As i said its my skimmer.
     
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    dunno if thats normal? how do i ground a skimmer?
     
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    You can Ground your tank.

    Connect a piece of wire from your tank chassis to the earth of any 3 prong plug and plug it in.
     
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    that sounds a bit dodge. why wouldn't the skimmer be grounded when it has a ground in the plug?
     
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    If its the skimmer then its the pump since it the only electrical part on it. The pump is faulty and needs to be replaced. Check for broken wires etc. Done mess with water and electricity.
     
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    Is the skimmer wire 3 core? If it is then it should be grounded. But that will stop it from leaking current into the water if the live wire is exposed to water.
     
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    Better to ground the tank than being used as ground (barefoot) - salt makes water more conductive. I do not have any pumps that are grounded.

    Make sure that your plug is grounded, or in case you are using an extension cord, it should be 3-core and grounded.

    If you have a multi meter, you can check by measuring between the earth, and the little metal screw on the wall plug.
     
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    But is it normal for a skimmer to do that? does anyone else have this issue with the resun pumps?
     
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    If the wire from the plug to the pump has salt deposit on it, it can also cause it.
     
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    Where can i get a new Pump for my skimmer?
    seeing as the person who sold it obviously knew there was a problem with the pump
     
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    Maybe its not your skimmer. Although your diagnoses points to it.

    Take into account that you got one big magnetic force field around that pump. And that will induce electrical current into the tank. Remember the simple electrical magnets you made in your school days when you wound a wire around something round, give it current and it becomes a magnet. All those old doorbells worked on this principal, those that went krrrrrrrrr, until you let the button go.

    Anyway, its not only your skimmer pump, your return pump gives his little bit, and each powerhead and heater and even your electronic ballast units. More so on the old style T8 electrical ballasts.

    Or, more likely its salt creep on your lightning unit. When last did you wipe that with a damp cloth?

    Best way to find the culprit, take a 3 prong wall plug. And only fit one wire in there to the ground pin. Do not leave any other wires in place, do not kill yourself.

    Then connect a Multimeter negative (does not really matter) to that wire and drop the positive into the tank. Take the reading. By switching and UNPLUGGING each component find the one or more than one that does the most impact. Or unplug everything. Not only switch off, but unplug them. Then one by one plug them back in, switch it on and take the reading.

    You will have some stray voltage due to induction. Last time this happen to me, it was my dirty lights. One time, my stray voltage was 132V, was my heater.
     
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    and redo the readings, this time with the positive in the sump. Especially with return pump switched off it could give different readings.
     
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    Well i put the skimmer in a big container and the same thing.
    So its def the skimmer.

    Going just go buy a brand new pump or second hand from somewhere
     
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    did u buy that Ts2 on gumtree for R950.00 Xereo ?
     
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    Yes thats correct. How did you know?
     
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    cause i enquired about the skimmer 2 , and the guys said he had just sold it , and then noticed that you said you just bought one for a bargain .
    Glad i didnt get one , eneded up buying Ts1 new from Oceanson on saturday
    Filling up my tank this weekend , cant wait to see it run
     
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