DSR salt

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  1. Ben Young

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    Hi so doing research who has tried to go the DSR way also if so where did you source the elements for the salt.

    Thank you
     
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    What's DSR?
     
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    Ben Young

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    GlennF reef keeping method
     
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    Imo, Why re invent the wheel. Once you up and running, you don't need much salt for 25% water changes. It's easier to just buy red sea or blue treaure etc.

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    Ok cool
     
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    hi wat u mean by this@rockf1re
     
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    Im sure he means, why make the salt when you can buy ready made tried and tested products off the shelf
     
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    The DSR method is pretty simple, Glenn does sell packs to do your own. The difference with his method is that you tailor your system to changes in params as needed.

    Doing straight water changes doesnt fix things, i have never done one in over 8 years and have no issues. What they do help with is the removal of the build up of certain nutrients, so once a year a good clean and 30% water change is beneficial. To me WC also cause partial instability which is what we want to avoid but thats me
     
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    Thanks CameL, its what I mean.
     
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    Doing straight water changes doesnt fix things, i have never done one in over 8 years and have no issues. What they do help with is the removal of the build up of certain nutrients, so once a year a good clean and 30% water change is beneficial. To me WC also cause partial instability which is what we want to avoid but thats me[/QUOTE]

    Im also experimenting. its been 2 weeks and still no water change. I did however had to dose Ca but only 20ppm. I then added the Red Sea Coral Colors A B C D. My Ph went down to 7.8 and i only dosed Red Sea Reef Foundation B and BOOM Ph 8.0

    1. What do you do if your Ph is low
    2. What elements do you test for
    3. How regularly do you test
    4. Do you add salt every now and then
    5. What type of Tank have you got and capacity?

    @rockf1re A++
     
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    I didn't start my tank to specifically use the "DSR" method, but i guess i've ended up running my tank on the same principles as DSR, with the exception of making my own salt. I don't do regular water changes any more but use red sea coral pro salt when i do need new water. Instead i run the tank by measuring and adjusting things when needed. As @dallasg mentioned (and i agree with this completely), water changes don't really fix much and by my calculations are actually quite expensive. This was the first consideration that caused me to decide on eliminating regular water changes (in conjunction with consistent readings of nitrogenous elements and phosphates).

    From my basic understanding (sorry @glennf if i get this wrong), the reason why a DSR recipe of salt was created was simply to avoid spending on products that may or may not achieve the desired adjustments to the water and instead build in the levels to the salt mix from the start with known-value ingredients.
     
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    Cool very interesting also going to wotk on the principle of testing and adding supplements as required.
     
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    My take... :)

    1. Water changes are not a fix for Ph. Alkalinity may buffer Ph and dissolved oxygen in your total volume would have a greater effect on Ph than a 10% - 30% water change. Effects on the Ph from water changes will likely be short-lived if the cause of low Ph is not identified.
    2. I test mostly the major ones, Calcium, Alkalinity and Magnesium. Also do the trace ones using the red sea coral colors program.
    3. At least weekly, sometimes twice a week. Depends what I am addressing.
    4. No
    5. RSM 130 nano (i estimate roughly 100 liters net volume)
     
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