DSB Transplant

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  1. poiromaniax

    poiromaniax MASA Contributor

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    Hey guys,

    The time is getting closer to me switching over to the new tank (YAY)

    I have a nice mature DSB running on my 1.2 and would like to move it to the 1.5 when the time comes. The DSB in the 1.5 will be significantly bigger than my current one, so Im gonna have to add alot of fresh sand and add the current DSB to it:

    How and when should I move the DSB over?
    Do I take out the entire DSB in one go when I move over the LS? or do I only take out the top half and use it to seed?
    Do I wash the DSB sand with salt water when I take it out?

    If I move over the DSB and add it to the fresh sand, will my LS be ok? or will the tank go through a massive cycle? (I will be dosing Seachem Stability when I switch the LS over)


    Thanks guys
     
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    tagging along! been wondering the same thing - would really like to change my sump.
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    there will be a cycle, the minute u empty the old dsb, the anerobic bacteria will be displaced and will have to grow again, stability will help alot, but be religious in the dosing etc
     
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    u can also use amigaurd from seachem to remove the ammonia first therefore limiting the cycle until the bacteria have settled

    i did this and it worked
     
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    i assume you would have to wash it otherwise the toxic sulphur zones will be released into the water column... i guess the question is how much of a cycle will there be, and how detrimental to LS would this be?
     
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    no losses then?
     
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    nope none when i did it
     
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    thanx dallas - would it be better to take out the top layer (say 3cm) from the DSB and use it to seed the new DSB, then let it run for a week or two before I switch over the LS?
     
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    yes thats the best
     
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    poiromaniax Thread Starter MASA Contributor

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    I think thats what Im gonna do, the only think I worry about is, wont the current tank take a knock from removing some of the DSB?
     
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    u could safely remove a quarter of the dsb and move that, then dose stability in both.
    i removed just under a quarter, moved that, then dosed bacteria and amigaurd and skimmed heavily
    it worked for me
     
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    the only issue is fish, how many u got?
     
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    got about 7 fish, 3 shrimp, urchin and anemone crabs
     
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    tagging along going to do the same
     
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    should fine fine, move the corals first, then the inverts, then the fish
     
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    Awesome, thanks for the help dallas
     
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    what if you're only changing out a sump, with the diaply remaining? in essence, moving the dsb without moving LS...
     
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    im going to be transplanting my dsb tonight, problem is nobody seems to have any seachem stability - what could i use as an equivalent?
     
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    Try "Cycle" - this too should work (but perhaps not as well as Stability). Also - Prodibio, or the Zeovit bacteria product should also work well.
     
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    well i did my DSb transplant last week monday - I couln't find any stability anywhere so I used seachem prime. dosed in the morning, that evening rinsed out all the sand in NSW, and swapped out my sumps. no losses! :) been a week now and everything is fine. continued dosing prime for a few days to make sure.
     
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