DSB does a marine tank need one

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  1. ADVdiver

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    I have been reading a couple forums, threads, posts and it is amazing that people are lead to believe that a marine tank cannot run without a DSB is this true and why?
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    it can, but that would be for very experienced reefers, also some have their dsb in there DT's

    DSB + skimmer = heart and soul of reefing
     
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    What made you change your tune ;)
     
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    ADVdiver Thread Starter

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    I disagree with you Skimmer and live rock = heart and soul

    I would guess that more than 70% of marine aquariums do not have a DSB
     
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    I rest my Case :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    What would that be
     
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    What you up to uncle :p
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    lol, hehe

    they are all just as important, but i admit i did forget to mention that LR would be an alternative.

    warr as for the skimmers, always had them, just dont run them 24/7, but i still believe beginners should until they get more experienced and know their systems
     
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    One reason I left the Guru Room:lol: :lol: :lol::lol:

    Sorry Guys, I really almost fell off my Chair, the kids wanted to know if I was olraait, long time since I had a good laugh
     
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    Nice :thumbup:
     
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    Hi ADVDiver - could I possibly play devil's advocate with regards to your question?

    Why would you NOT WANT to keep a DSB? It's free? Except for the extra space in your sump, and / or seperate little tank and water flow?

    A DSB, is the source of the following:
    1) free food for the fish and corals (pods, plankton - ie. zoo- and phyto) - pods and worms live and breed in a DSB like CRAZY
    2) an AWESOME filtration system (if you look at the sea and our oceans - it has a HUGE HUGE DSB) - only in a DSB, is the nutrient cycle COMPLETELY applied - the nutrients are broken down to nitrogen, oxygen and hydrogen....
    3) A DSB is FAR MORE natural than NOT having one....
    4) Certain fish and other marine life REQUIRE a DSB to survive happily in a marine tank.....

    So, what reasoning would you have AGAINST having a DSB?

    The sea have BOTH live rock, as well as DEEP SAND BEDs....... Why would we want to get by without it?
     
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    Does the sea stop skimming....
     
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    My Algae tank does not have a DSB and my Nano also does not have a DSB or skimmer.

    A DSB is in effect a nitrate filter. Plenums IMO are better.
    A nitrate reductor can be used in place of a DSB.

    If you are doing your regular 25-30% water changes you should not have Nitrate problems.
     
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    To answer this question - YES IT DOES.

    The sea only skims two to three times a month. When a certain wind blows.... and only after the detritus and crap have been lifted into the water column (also by certain winds)...

    The sea is wonderful - BUT, the sea is a HUGE HUGE VOLUME OF WATER.... so, it CAN AFFORD NOT TO SKIM.....
     
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    You have misunderstood me I am not against just dont believe that in the 12 years I have been involved in marine's that i have never run a dsb and all the tanks that i have run have been successful.
     
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    As Jacques has said, I can't see why a DSB would be a bad thing, unless it was taking up space for LR :D

    Other than all the chemical discussions I find my DSB as interesting as my display tank. The life in there is sooooooooo cool :)
     
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    You're old school :D

    Bet you don't have a PS3 :whistling:
     
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    ADVDiver - I appreciate and respect your experience in keeping marines.

    It is only that you must PLEASE take into account that, like with EVERYTHING in life, everything, and everyone's knowledge is constantly changing.

    My, and every (conservasionist minded) reef-keeper/marine aquarist, ideal, is to try and DUPLICATE what we see in the sea. And to give the marine lifestock that I have in my "control", the ABSOLUTE BEST chance of living and not only, barely surviving.

    Meaning - I WANT my lifestock to THRIVE as much as they can, in the small little glass box we keep them in......
    Therefor - the BEST way to achieve that, is to try and replicate their natural environment as good as possible.Right?

    Or do I have this wrong?
     
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    i never had one until i joined here and read about them, but like warr said, it adds such cool life
     
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