Dry Aragonite and Arag-Alive

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  1. Manic

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    Hey everyone,

    Has anyone tried the Arag-Alive product. It says it contains bacteria that will reduce your cycling time. I'm battling to see how this is possible. The bags sit at LFS for months and months, how do these bacteria survive or is it just a marketing ploy?
     
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  3. durleo

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    i do not know if there are bacteria but i used a bag in my DSB - can say that there is a any visible difference.
     
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    Now you have opened a can of worms :whistling:

    My personal opinion is - alive when packed, dead when opened:lol:

    Now i am going to be lynched.
     
  5. Manic

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    I can't see how they can survive that long. Its like me taking some sand from the sea, putting it in a bag and leaving it in my garage. Then 6 months later using it in my tank thinking everything survived.
     
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    Is or isn't a difference?
     
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    atleast there is something to start the cycle (bacteria die of), i dont try or waiste money on trying to cycle a tank quickly anymore.
     
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    well bacteria can withstand some serious extremes - i guess whatever dies will feed more bacteria - How does MB7 & Seachem Stability keep bacteria alive. I guess someones gotto to some forensics:whistling:
     
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    Another question I have is how much water was in the packet?

    If there is a lot then you are paying aragonite prices for water.
     
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    aragalive waste of money imo!
     
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    I agree 100%

    How on earth can it stay alive THAT long? (packaging, shipping, sitting on shelves waiting to be bought)

    Snake Oil IMO
     
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    I heard that aparently the backteria lay dorment until exposed to water :p

    If aragalive is bull then so are all the other so called backteria you get in bottles. I mean how long since being bottled till you get it? Everything could've died so you're actually dosing ammonia :lol:
     
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    Lanzo, I like the look of the black and white arag-alive. Do you get "dead" ones as it might be cheaper than the so called live ones.
     
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    Wel jy WEET dat dit vir my gewerk het!
     
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    Im not sure where i read it but when they collect the arago nite they add certain chemicals so that the bacteria go into staysis.Basically the same as brine shrimp eggs wich stay dormend until you hatch them.
     
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    yip.....for some it works and for others it doesnt....this still stumps me:p
     
  17. Tony

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    How does bacteria in a bottle or vial stay alive?
     
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    Tony: If u look at seachem stability, that bacteria is in a dormant 'spore' state. Only becomes active when added to your tank
     
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    Surely then the same must count for the Arag-alive?
     
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    My point exactly:thumbup:
     
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    Arag-Alive achieves rapid cycling by preparing and seeding the substrate grain surfaces with a wide variety of marine bacteria, most in a spored state, including strains engineered for maximum waste reduction capacity.
    Some types of bacteria reduce nitrogenous waste by metabolic oxidation while others incorporate nitrogen into bacterial biomass during rapid growth. Since most species of bacteria are somewhat symbiotic, and tend to colonize a surface in succession, the process of cycling an aquarium is facilitated by the close proximity of the immobilized species.
    Bacteria are maintained at a low metabolic rate by restricting access to certain limiting factors required for metabolism.
     
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