Does anyone do 300l water change?

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  1. Jaco Schoeman

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    Hey guys...

    I was thinking while is was sitting a the bathtub this morning...:whistling: Is there any one in the Johburg area that does a 300 litr (or two people that does 150 liter) water changes every month / second week or what ever?

    My reason for asking is that I would need about 300 litres of water to fill my new tank. 300 litres @ R2.50 is a lot of money to spend on water, filled with trace elements and other goodies for corals, that does not even get used - as there are no corals.

    So, can I have an idea of whom I can contact when my tank is ready to fill, so I can come and collect the water to fill the tank for cycling? I will then obviously do the rest of my top up with NEW salt water, and suppliment with Tropic Marine Trace Elements.;)

    This will really save me a couple of $$$...

    Thanks!!! :thumbup:
     
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  3. Sentari

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    Jaco i have a RO Unit if you need water. I stay in Weltevreden Park.

    I dont mind filling up water for you. Just bring the drums or whatever you need.

    Or you can use my RO Unit... Whatever is easier...
     
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    Thanks, I also thought of that, as my dad also has one (although he stays far away) but then I would still need to buy the salt, which would work me out more or less the same to fill with salt. If this is the only option though, I will definetly knock on your front door!!!

    Thank you very much :thumbup:
     
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    Jaco I do 50 - 70 L / week
     
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    Jaco, I filled my new tank with old water from my old tank and from another friend.
    Took me 3 weeks, but cost me nothing.

    I did post a question on it. And my findings.
    Cycle new tank with old water? - General Discussions

    When I did my old tank, I syphoned my brothers tank substrate, and I dumped all that junk into my old tank to kick-start the cycle process. Within 4 weeks that tank was 100%.
     
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    I think everyone has misunderstood Jaco, he is looking for someones "old" water from their water change to put in his new tank to cycle, so he does need to spend alot of money new water as there is no livestock.

    Is this correct Jaco?
     
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    now that I don't want to picture. :lol:

    I do a weekly 25l change I don't know if that would help.
     
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    Jip lIghty. That is right... What Riaan says makes a lot of sense as well. Remember that the "off" water from mature tanks is so rich in elemets for newer tanks. I think it is a shame that we throw away all that lovely water, rather than offer it to reefers who is starting up their new tanks - like mine now...

    All the things mature tanks sees a gaggas, is actually what is needed to kick start a immature tank - that is why we seed DSB's... Doing what I aim to do, will not only save me money, but I am in fact seeding my water with all the bacteria, dinoflaggalates and other microscopic organisms, that is not and can not be present in newly mixed salt water.;)

    Even if I must "lieslap" 70 litres from Frans etc, that would work. There are many reefers around me in JHB, I just need them to say yes, then on one tiring Saturday I will go around and collect all your gagga water, detritus from syphoning the gravel etc... :thumbup:
     
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    Yes, thanks Boendoe. If no one can help me with bigger volumes, I will definetly take it... It will only be in a month or so, but I will put you on my "donor list..." ;)
     
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    Jaco, if you got those white plastic jerry cans, give some to the reefers before the weekend. So that they can fill your cans up. So Monday afternoon you go around and collect. Then redo this next weekend until your tank is full. Just check how much junk you syphon and dump into your tank. Do not want a 1cm thick layer.

    I'm in Pretoria east, Moreleta Park. Sorry, a bit out of the way.
     
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    Sjoe thats hectic Jaco. Also does the difference in salt make a difference. Once my tank is up i will be using SeaChem Reef Salt. My tank will be +- 400 L and 10% of that might help :)
     
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    Thanks Riaan. Just a question, if the tank is not filled in one go, should the water be cycled via powerheads etc? Or how long can it stay "still". Obviously the water should reach the overflow first before the full cycle can start, but can the tank stand at half for a week?
     
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    Also what about the Tempreture?
     
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    Sure, thanks Sentari. That is 40 litres, so we have:
    70 from Frans
    25 from Boendoe
    40 from Sentari
    That is then 135 litres!!! Great, we are getting there...

    Just on your Q Sentari, no, at cycling salt make does not really make much of a diffs I think. The salinity and all the bacteria etc is the most important thing. I will convert to Tropic Marine later on, as this is what Exotic uses in boksburg, which is my nearest LFS. But by the time the tank is 100% Tropic Marine, then only will I start havin coral etc which need the elements...
     
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    I did it like that

    Fill it to where you can. Put 1 powerhead in there or return pump, whatever just to move it a bit. And your heater in there.

    Obviously if you ask fellow guys to help, and give them your drums, they should not put the drums with old water outside for the night.
     
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    If you do a water change for me you can have the old water ;)
     
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    check it
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    Overflow not working, in tank skimmer. This was when I almost had enough water.
    That big softy in there fell over and behind the rocks in my old tank. I did not notice it for a few days. And it did look dead. So as last change I just moved it here. Luckily it made it. Two big pieces LR from my sump + 3 small ones.
     
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    Yip, that will work for me!!!! ;) Thanks Riaan

    Hey RORY, I will do all the work, you just supply the water to add to your tank... I will do the rest :razz:
     
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    I will happily give you +- 150 litres from my cube .

    I do a 150 litre water change per week.
     
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