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  1. srecho

    srecho

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    Detailed help request
    Are you experiencing any problems in your tank?
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    Brief Description
    cloudy water, dosing unit malfunction ,500ml of Aqauvitro calcification added i n a space of 15hours calcium is 475;day before was 395. tankis600mm deep can not see true
    Tank size
    180x60x60
    System Volume
    800 l
    How long has your tank been running?
    18 month
    What livestock do you have?
    13 fishes,5 tangs 2clown fish ,5cromis mandarin .5euphilia, 5trumpet coral 1buble 1fox coral 5 zoanthus,6hairy mashrums 1pagoda, 2treecorals 1sarcophyton 1mini anemone 1 maroon anemone
    Water Parameters
    alk:8.7
    cal 475
    phosfate .32ppm
    magnesium 1400ppm
    pH 8.4 yesterday today8,18
    nitrite n/a
    nitrate 2.5
    ammonia 0
    salinity 1.023
    temp. 25
    What lighting is over the tank?
    4white, 4blue t5 .blue on from7am til20.00 white from 8til19.00.w
    Pumps and equipment
    2 sunsun single 5000l/l 2 seio1500
    skimer oqtopus 160x 1500lper/h
    week on week of a/carbon Dbs 120mm deep. Return pump Hailea6540 2880l/h
    Sametimes moon light on for 1 hour
    Maintenance
    Every second week 120l change using R/O 4 stage filter system.Tropic Marine salt. Tubes were changed 6 months ago.
    Every second month i am adding some strotium 2gram

    also some Vibrance -iodide
    Keeping parameters i am using 4 stage doser :Calcification,8/4, ions, fuel.
    Other info and photo's.
    Feeding of fishes twice dayly.SInce the beginnig first year my phosfate was 0 then it climbed to .35 and can not geting it down. Also is with nitrate always stay 2. If no adding is done my calcium level is always around 370 -380. Before cloudy water Ph was 8.4 now is only 8.15 in space of 12-14 hours. To my knowledge nothing die or disapper.Corals where looking great exept za onthids who some of polyps do not open for some time. ANY advice wil be greatly accepted .
    thank you Srecho.
     
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  3. Albert Terego

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    I would not over react at this stage - all your parameters seem to be fine.

    The cloudiness is possibly to a snowstorm caused by the rapid addition of the calcium.
    Continue monitoring your alk, calcium and magnesium for now - don't add anything unless any of the values drop significantly and then only raise them again slowly.

    The cloudiness should clear up on its own.
     
  4. mandarinman

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    increase kh over a day to 11.2 to correct ph in relation to calcium and magnesium and everything should be fine.
     
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    Its happened to me as well.
    The tank will clear on its own in 24 hours or so.
     
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    The tank will clear yes. Dont do anything as it does. Once it has cleared completely, measure alk and ca again.
    Snowstorm might cause incorrect measurements due to caco3 in sample. If correction required, dont raise alk by more than 2 dkh in 24 hours. An alk of 8,7 is fine though.
     
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    One thing I would do is raise your salinity from 1023 to 1025 or 1026.

    I had a milky tank for days only to find put it was my salinity running low. I am not saying that's the case here I am saying though your salinity is to low.
     
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    1.023 sg is no problem but can be raised slightly. it wont cause cloudiness
     
  9. srecho

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    Hi everybody. Thanks for input.Water is already100% beter, less cloudy.Even corals started opening polyps. Fishes are not affected. I am sure now that problem was caused by to much calcium adding. Check the dosing unit and found out setup was set to24 times by 30mml .No wonder . One more thing:My alkalinity is 7-8 max. never more. What is the best metod to increase it.
    Have a super week.
     
  10. Albert Terego

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    Nothing wrong with an alk of 7-8. If that's the level your system seems to have stabilised at with your specific dosing regimen then keep it at those levels.
     
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    Totally agreed, keeping it stable is more important than raising it. As you have a doser, stability should be easy to maintain. If you keep it at 8 you should be fine.
     
  12. mandarinman

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    the raising of kh to get the balance right would remove the threat of ph fluctuations and thus stabilise water perameters as all three reduce together. true story!
     
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    only if the balance is correct can the perameters be available to be used up proportionately and reduce
     
  14. mandarinman

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    look at suggested ratios uploadfromtaptalk1358286768063.jpg uploadfromtaptalk1358286873847.jpg

    uploadfromtaptalk1358286768063.jpg

    uploadfromtaptalk1358286873847.jpg
     
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    Regardless of alk on 7, 8 or 9, etc, ca will come down. As long as their is alk available for calcification and used alk is replaced, the ca will drop due to calcification. Unbalanced ca:mg:alk does not inhibit calcification or growth of corraline.
    You are 100% correct though about the correct balance, but considering the stressors, best to leave things for now.. Unbalanced params when within acceptable range is less stressfull than rapidly raising alk post stressful event which likely rapidly dropped it in the 1st place.
    unless the actual measurements are taken again from clear water, params in 1st post are doubtfull.
     
  16. mandarinman

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    and i take it you have proof of this ? it is your opinion. if the ratios are right the ph is controlled and if the ph fluctuations are controlled corals are imo less susceptible to rtn stn and plain old bleaching imo.
     
  17. srecho

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    .Hi guys. Latest news: Water is clear again.Fishes back to normal. Euphilia are first who are completly open,buble and fox 80% open .So is trompet ,mushrum,pagoda corals. The worst affected are zoanthids,brirarium and 2 soft corals.
    In refugium i would like to keep some plants .Any suggestion where i can get some plants and what are the best for my setup.
    Thank you Srecho
     
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    Happy to hear there has been a visual improvement.
     
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