Decisions for water flow

Discussion in 'Pumps and Waterflow' started by Wizard, 16 Jun 2007.

  1. Wizard

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    Advice would be welcome, i am replacing all my flow pumps and i have a few decisions to make. I dont know what to choose, i was interested in 2 vortechs but i dont want to wait until the end of the year for the controller. so i guess my choice is either 4 seio m2600s on controllers but i believe that the cords are really short and i need to put the controllers about 4m away from the pumps. or, 3 maxi jets on an aquamedic controller. i havnt done much research yet but what would you guys recomend. i would like to go tunze but not at the price tag that is being asked.
     
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  3. Alan

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    I have had my seio's for over the year now and am very happy with them, very good value for money pumps IMO. I don't have mine on the controllers i put them on simple on/off timers and have been working fine.
     
  4. Wizard

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    mmmm..... how are yours set up. how short are the cables. would you see any advantage to running them on a controller as opposed to just simply on and off.
     
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    I extended the cables and when i set them up the controllers were not available, the only problem i have with them switching on and off is the short chatter you sometimes get when the pump starts.
     
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    do you know if the 2 running on a controller will run in opposition to each other. ie. if you put one on either side of the tank will they alternate ( one on left full whilst the one on the right is half strenghth)
     
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    I dont know the controllers at all, but i would assume thay would run like that, one steps down while the other steps up.
     
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    same in my case alan
     
  9. Tom

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    Slightly off topic. If you want to extend the cables, solder the tips, put silicon over the open wire, pull heatshrink over and shrink. This should be pretty water resistant. Oh and Seios are great!
     
  10. Wizard

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    good idea!! any one out there running the seios on controllers?
     
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    As far as I could make out. Asked Mille and Scott. Both agreed that the pumps worked on the same cycle. Both ramped from 30% to 100% at the same time. If they did alternate I would have purchased one myself.
     
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    Have to say the seio's are good pumps for the money and the electronic controller also works very well.The only problem with running them on a normal on/of timer is it greatly reduces the lifespan of the pump, thats why seio went to all the trouble with the controller.

    If anyone is looking for affordable wave maker that alternates between 2 pumps of any size/wattage cycle rate between 1 and 60 minutes i have recently seen a nifty little timer i think the price was +-R200 If anyone is interested.i am going to purchase one and test it this week.
     
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    I used something similar for a while (cost about R140 at the time)

    I had two problems with it.

    1) Start was quite harsh. I'm sure the pumps would not last as long.
    2) Only one pump runs at a time. This is OK but you would effectively then half your flow comapaed to running both at same time.

    I'm sure if you used more than one of these timers and got more pumps though you could achieve nice flow (pump burnout would still be a worry).

    Also anyone know if one can wire two pumps (or more) pumps together and plug them into one outlet i.e. run 4 (or6) pumps instead of two from one controller

    Clinton
     
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    One would have to have access to their design to give an accurate answer. And they will not give out that info too easily.
     
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    So who is gonna try and hook 4 up to 1 controller? Would you just cut and join the cords?
     
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    That's what I was thinking. But I don't have my controller anymore to test it out.
     
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    What happened to it? I will invest in 2 more pumps then I'll give it a bash... worst I could do is blow the controller....
     
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    I gave it away to Fickie if i recall corrrectly. And then it burnt out...

    Must admit the controller was not top quality though.
     
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    I,ve used one for 2 years now,Chinese,yingshing is the brand name,it will fail if you draw too many watts/channel,the chatter on start up is the only problem,any ideas on a capacitor or simple circuit to allow the power to build up gradually?
     
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    anyone got prices on controllers?
     
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    I think we were talking about putting 4 seio's on the seio controller not on a other type of controller... Makaeel think they about R1300 or so but check will Eco Aquatics...
     
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