DBN surfer harassed by lifeguards over a drop in

Discussion in 'Sports and Lifestyle' started by HenkHugo, 20 Apr 2011.

  1. HenkHugo

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    Eish - you KZN guys have some issues to deal with....

     
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  3. erle_vaughan

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    ya bru... that lifeguard took it too far...
    what ever happened to the good old days... one tighty righty and everyone was happy again
     
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    I wonder what Dr Michael Sutcliffe has to say about this... surly the surfing industry brings in buckets of money to durbz... and this the day after cartblanche exposed the KZN Pro lifeguards for being incompetent.
     
  5. HenkHugo

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    perhaps the video needs to be sent to carte blanche?
     
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    You must, they just had an expose on the lifeguard industry about a week to 2 ago. I'm sure they would love this footage. Kudos to whoever shot it!
     
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    Lol, I take that back. A couple day ago :)

    The guys must make a stink tbh, otherwise it'll only get worse.
     
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    I hope the guy does not leave it there.
     
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    We dont have that kind of kak here in E.L. if the ous cause kak they know they are gonna get smacked.. the hierachy is very stable here and everyone knows their place...
     
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    Leslie, what exactly is the "hierachy" because I must say, that sounds just as ominous as what I have just seen here.
     
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    Eish...Thats my front yard. If fishing was still allowed on the pier, would have sunk that jetski with a 10 ounce sinker :p
     
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    I'm ahving a blond moment here , but exactly what happened here ?? I can see the hassassment by the lifeguard on the surfer but why ??
     
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    in any sport there is a pecking order, Elder or more experienced surfers are responsorble for leading by example,

    if somebody gets out of line words are exchanged and people are put in the right direction. it does happen that this occasionally gets a little heated from time to time but if you undertake a sport you should make yourself afe with the rules and etiquette to avoid breaking such.

    good one, i cannot handle the smell of fuel while surfing, it ruins the experience. agreed that jetskis are a useful rescue device if used properly, but the advantage of having one here is clearly being abused, even as a lifegaurd im sure he isnt allowed to hover /circle around a paddler/ bather in the surfline as this is dangerous...

    the person closest to the breaking part of the wave has priority to ride it if he has waited for it.

    The paddler/surfski clearly paddled in and took someone elses wave, and that was the offence in this case..
     
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    thanks for the input les but was the surfer @ fault or the dude in the paddleski ??
     
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    paddleski..;)
     
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    then why was the surfer being harrassed ???
     
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    because the lifegairds think they own the sea..

    if there are a bunch of bodyboarders and 1 gets harrassed all will stand up for him the same with surfers and kneeboarders etc etc.. the lifegaurds are the same.. but this time in the wrong.. its a very pig headed mentality..
     
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    So he got fined for doing what? Taking too long to get out of the water whilst being circled by the lifeguard?
     
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    he got fined coz they could
     
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    From ZIGZAG

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    An incident at North beach on Thursday morning 14 April involving a surfer and two lifeguards has sparked anger from the Durban surfing community, who are claiming that the lifeguards have become a law unto themselves and are abusing their power. The lifeguards counter that they were well within their rights and doing their job, while the entire incident was captured on video.

    According to Brent Badenhorst, the surfer involved in the incident, Lifeguard Superintendant Jace Govender dropped in on his wave with his rescue ski. Govender, however, believes he had the right of way because he was on the wave first (see beginning of video for the incident).

    Govender and Badenhorst then exchanged words, a common occurrence between wave riders when there is a drop-in. Badenhorst claims that he was willing to let the incident pass, until Govender challenged him repeatedly on why he had gone on the wave. Badenhorst responded aggressively, and the incident escalated into a heated verbal confrontation, with Govender going to the beach shortly afterwards.

    What happened next, however, has raised serious questions about safety protocol and procedure amongst the Durban lifeguards. A second lifeguard was sent out to tell Badenhorst to come in. When Badenhorst refused, he proceeded to intimidate him on his jetski.

    "He told me to go to the beach and I asked why, as I felt I hadn't done anything wrong" said Badenhorst. "He then started circling me many times with the 500kg motorized jet-ski, and I was nervous because it's dangerous, especially because it’s where the waves were breaking."

    The entire incident was clearly captured on video (see video - 00:12 to 01:40). After a standoff lasting a few minutes Badenhorst reluctantly returned to the beach. "When I got to the beach there was the same lifeguard (Govender) and a Policeman and (police) van waiting for me on the beach," said Badenhorst.

    Badenhorst was then escorted to the police station on the beachfront where he was threatened with arrest. "I continued asking him what the charges were, but they could not tell me." He was eventually issued with a R500 fine for ‘Breach of Peace’ and ‘Failing to comply with instruction’.

    The incident has drawn outrage from both the lifeguards and the surfers on opposite sides of the fence. Govender has been a respected lifeguard on the beachfront for close on 20 years according to sources, and as Superintendent Lifeguard, he effectively has the authority to ban surfing at North Beach. In an attempt to resolve the issue, key representatives for Durban surfers including Jason Ribbink and Graeme Bird met with the Lifeguard authorities to discuss the issue the following day

    When contacted for his side of the story, Govender declined to comment, but according to another Durban lifeguard who wishes to remain anonymous the following protocol is permitted and not permitted by the lifeguards:

    • Council jetskis are allowed in the surf at anytime, however, doing terrorising donuts and knocking people off their surfboards is strictly not allowed.

    • Using the jetski as a means to chaperone people into the beach is not allowed either.

    • The lifeguards are allowed to demand people go into the beach if they feel there is danger to them or others, or if the beach is closed for an event or where serious ocean activity is occurring, such as massive crazy oceans deemed dangerous or major live ocean activity such as the sardine run.

    • Lifeguards are not allowed to demand people into the beach if it is over a drop-in incident or a simple ‘rules of the road’ incident in the surf. It is an unwritten rule that dropping in should be dealt with like gentlemen and regarded that sometime these things happen. Generally the surfers are reasonable about dropping in and it gets sorted out quickly with an exchange of words, but not the need for police and jetskis.

    • Canoe crafts as per the one used by the municipal lifeguards are allowed in the surf as this is a council rescue craft. Being in the surf while numerous surfers are out could be deemed dangerous, however, this is regarded as training for the lifeguards and the rules say it's acceptable.

    According to a highly respected Durban surfer involved in the talks, who also wished to remain anonymous, clarification is needed around the rules regarding the jetskis in the surf and around surfers. He went on to say, having seen the footage himself and being a highly experienced jetski operator, that there is no clear visual of the surfer being bashed off his board by the ski (as was claimed by Badenhorst). He does, however, believe they should not be allowed near surfers, as they can kill a person.
     
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