Damsel ID Please

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  1. llewellyn

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    Please can someone tell me what type of damsel this is?

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    Abudefduf notatus - Yellow-tailed sergeant-major
     
  4. Slummies

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    as Puddle hopper richard says. common in our waters. dam ugly
     
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    So, a wise-guy.
     
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    :p when you coming down bud? amped to take you to a spot i dive often
     
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    Slumbum what fish is sexy to you. BTW I think that Damsel is cute;)
     
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    Regal angel..:)
     
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    ALive I hope ;)
     
  10. llewellyn

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    Thanks Richard
    It is quite common hey
    It does'nt look that bad I agree with you Trev. Might have to send him back though coz these fish are agro

    Thanks guys
     
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    Nope, common name - Dusky Damsel. Got the sceintific name correct

    Female gets up to 17cm. not as agressive at all as the sergeant major at all that is local. These Duskys comes up from up north, Northern Moz areas.

    I lost mine when I did my tank move. I liked her. Was fully grown, tame and always checked me out. Never went into hiding. Got her when she was small enough to swim through eggcrate. Interesting thing is that they sleep in the open waters above the live rock. Do not go and hide like the other fish.

    Sergeant major is another BEAST. agrressive. Where Dusky is tame, only aggresive to its own, like other Dusky. Do not even bother the blue green chromis school at all. The small little Blue Yellow tail do chase her out of his area even.

    Interesting fish. But not as nice in regards to colour. Always on the move.

    But I only recommend one to a tank. When they grow up, and the biggest turns into a female, she totally becames a bitch to the smaller male and will kill him. Even in my 750L system. Had to remove him and gave him to Schalk.
     
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    Or you could call him a Donker nooientjie, Nirék sárepwén, Moong, Patang kapal, Gulhalet sergentfisk, Yellow-tail sergeant, Sergent à queue jaune, Iso-suzumedai, Samok-samok, Palata, абудефдуф пятнистый, 少帶金翅雀鯛....

    The common name is irrelevant as it is coloquial. It's the scientific name that is unique!
     
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    I know the local fish name can be anything, depending on where in the world you are. But what is relative to us reefers are if it is reefsafe or not.

    The fish pictures above behaviour is a lot different from the "Sergeant" that is normally seen aound Durban.

    And in my opinion it is Reefsafe. Not aggresive at all, and will even be chased out of a Blue Yellow Tail area.
     
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    Riaan, now you going into a totally new game here bud. whats your version of reef safe? this thing wont chow coral and i even doubt inverts...

    Abudefduf notatus is in the sergeant major family
     
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    :confused1: Hmmm interesting. I have a sergeant major also. But still small, only about 3.5cm and I haven't seen them show any aggression toward each other or the other fish.
     
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    Abudefduf notatus is different to Abudefduf vaigiensis and the other 4 or 5 types of sergeant majors you find in Durban. They are all VERY closely related, and are subsequently similar.

    If the whole "reefsafe" thing is that important to you, save yourself the hassle of learning latin and just call fish "reefsafe" or "not reefsafe", depending on your opinion. Leave the systemics to Ichthyologists.
     
  18. viper357

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    Let's not argue over common names guys, they vary so much from different countries and also different area's of SA, common names often cause confusion and the occasional argument.:)
     
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    It's like me arguing with Mekaeel if a fish falls into the edible or non-edible category. We both wrong, cause what would be non-edible to me, would most likely be edible for Magman, cause he chows anything with a heartbeat...lol

    I do like it though if people put the Latin names to fish. it makes it soooo much easier for all to get info on the fish. I think it is our own fault to learn common names, as everyone has their own names for certain fish, and it is not always right.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Agreed, latin names make life so much easier, but, and I am the first one to admit to this, latin names are just sooooo hard to remember, let alone pronounce or even attempt to try and spell it, thank goodness for copy and paste, and Ichthyologists. :p That is why common names are so prevalent, yet varied, also easier to remember. Arguing over common names shouldn't become a huge issue as we need to realise that there are just so many different names for the same fish.

    Sorry for hijacking your thread llewellyn.
     
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