Cycling TL550 lots of questions???

Discussion in 'Boyu TL450 and TL550 advice' started by Mc, 19 Aug 2011.

  1. Mc

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    Hi All

    Starting up my TL550 tommorrow:1: just wondering about a few things.
    Does anyone use the uv I see alot of peolple take them out? If its a good idea to use it should I run it during the cycling period or wait until its over?

    I have already taken out the bio balls, and ceramic rings, and im going to use LR rubble, cheato, and filter floss for filtration am I missing anything. After the cycle how often would you recommend water changes and how much, on my current system im doing 20% weekly changes but thats on a much smaller system without a skimmer. Also I have the newer version of the TL550 with the bigger skimmer but I see it doesn't have a removeable cup any ideas on how to empty this without taking the whole skimmer out?

    Sorry bout all the questions just don't wanna mess anything up.:)
     
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    oki, leave the bio-balls in,
    this is how i run mine
    chamber 1, filter floss, changed when it goes slightly brown, filter sock full of carbon
    chamber 2 skimmer
    chamber 3 bio-balls, LR rubble and cheato
    chamber 4 return pump
     
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    as for water changes, i would do 10L every second week
     
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    Take the UV out. The perpose of the UV filter/light is to kill off bad bacteria.......but in the process you are killing the GOOD bacteria too.
     
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    Thanks for the quick reply Dallasg.
    I have read the bio balls can become a nitrate trap, what do you think about this, do you ever rinse the bio balls? So you only took the ceramic rings out?
     
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    Thats what I was wondering about.
    But aren't most the benificial bacteria in the rock and filter media?
     
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    i left them all in, but wasnt going to say as others here will moan about it...
    if you keep the bio-balls moving and clean they work well. as for nitrates you have cheato so they will remove the excess.

    u can leave the UV in as any bacteria floating through water is not doing anything.
    just once a week flush the bio-balls and ceramic rings out so that excess dirt is removed

    you can take out a litre water, rinse in that once a week and replace with new water, that will make it 12L of water change every 2 weeks

    the bio-balls and ceramic rings can only product nitrates from a system that supplies the nutrients for it, so if you have enough live rock and dont over stock or feed, it will be fine
     
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    Ok that makes sense I'll be adding about 15kgs of live rock.
    I hope thats enough.
     
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    thats perfect, make sure a lot of flow thru and around to keep the rock clean and effective.

    i drilled a 6mm hole in the skimmer cup and used airline tubing to a 2L coke bottle to drain it, works like a charm
     
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    Good idea thanks for the advice.:thumbup:
     
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    my 550
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    Wow! That looks good.
    How long has that Gonipora been in there,
    And how often and what do you feed your tank?
     
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    had those for a year now, i feed ocean nutrion frozen cyclops, red plankton, micro plnakton and lobster eggs, fish eat that too
     
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    Thats intereting not alot of people have success with Goni im, sure you know that.

    I know this is a bit of a controversial subject but im gonna be dosing microbe-lift special blend according to the instructions. Does this mean after the cycle I will have to continue with it, if so for how long?
     
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    yes, but its only like every couple days, but its all you need biologically, you can how ever cycle a tank with it in a few days, i did
     
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    Ok I will test the the ammonia and nitrites daily to see how long it takes.
     
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    I have a similar tank and had the same issue with the skimmer They cup is removable, just very difficult once it goes to far in, I used a wooden spoon at the end to push mine out from the bottom.

    If you have cheato in your filter area, you'll have to add a light there.

    Good luck, nice tank.
     
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    Thanks Len
    I will try get it out did you notice the piece in the centre of the skimmer is not solid it moves around, or is mine broken?
    I am planning on putting a light in there my currrent system has a fuge light that im gonna move over.
     
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    To top bit is the cup, you can take the skimmer apart and remove the internal cone bit out of the tube. Then you can push the cup by pushing it from the bottom.

    Look at my tank for a refugium, works well for me, lights was a bit expensive.
     
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