Coral farm in Gauteng...??

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  1. Raven

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    Hi guys,
    I've pondered alot about the idea of starting a coral farm....
    The only problem is - I'm in Gauteng - meaning no NSW.
    BUT I still think about doing it.

    Do you think it will be worth one while to look at doing something like this in the vaal?
    I don't want to get rich out of it, but it will be nice if the hobby can pay for itself.
    If one can setup +- 10 tanks to start with.

    The problems that i can see that one will face:
    1. Heating of water (in winter)
    2. Cooling in summer.
    3. Water changes (salt is damn expensive these days)
    4. Coral food (also damn expensive)


    But I also think we need to propagate way more in any case!

    So what's your ideas on something like this gents (and ladies)?

    Can this work or not?
    What other problems/issues must i think off before start a venture like this?
     
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  3. leslie hempel

    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    its never been a better time to start with something like this.. technology has come along way and the availability of good quality salts are now abundant.. pricy but available.. start off slow. and work towoards a goal.. the biggest thing here in my opinion is initial outlay... chip away at it one small piece at a time and you will get somewhere... by doing nothing you are getting nowhere...
     
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    That is so true....
     
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    learn from my mistake if i had property i would have started something a long time ago... and see if you cant look into solar energy to run and natural sunlight for lighting with an inside tank to minipulate colour when they are closer to sale.. growth is what you want to achieve no matter what the colour initially and fine tune the colour closer to market time...
     
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    Cool thanks for the advice!
    any advice/tips are MORE than welcome guys!!!
     
  7. Raven

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    I was just thinking - the filtration for a coral farm must be exceptional...
    Do you guys think that one will be able to get away using a Algea scrubber alone as filter media?
    Also, what is the best option - if I have 10 tanks, must I have 1 sump for all 10 tanks, or 10 sumps (1 for each tank...?)
     
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    We run a frag farm in Orange Grove(JHB) you would be welcome to come round for a view anytime.
     
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    Ideally each tank should have it's own sump. This helps to prevent massive livestock losses if a tank crashes. Also mono spesific growout tanks will prevent chemical warfare between different species and promote faster growth.
     
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    agree with fragman.. id also say a skimmer rated at double the water capacity is a must..for excretions of coral when fragged...
     
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    This is a must see!!!!
    Will see when I get some time I'll let you know!!


    thanks!
     
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    for interest sake....we supply aquaculture companies with dams and i quoted about 2 mnths ago on a project for lobster & prawn farming in PTA...the system is completely self sufficient, wastewater feeds algea, generates metane gas which runs etc VERY intersting. so im sure it could be done...might be a good idea to chat to these guys ???? www.aasa-aqua.co.za :thumbup:
     
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    Hi hows your "farm" coming along? Like to see a few pics of progress!

    Raven is welcome to check my efforts out, I could give a few pointers of what I have done, what I should have done etc
    Time I get going and check on Midas and Louis's place.
    When Robin?
     
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    Hi Rod,

    I would love to come have a look at your propogation setup.... any chance i can pop round sometime?
     
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    Thanks Rod!
    At this stage I only have some ideas. So no pics yet...:(
    I first want to get the best practical solution - then build...I can't afford it to do it all over if the first attemp failed!

    So I will definitally want to come and check your and Robin's setup before I start with anything!;)

    But i'm very happy to see that this is possible here in Gauteng!:yeahdude:

    Question - can this be self sustainable?
     
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    Every one is welcome, its only in its infancy in South Africa. So any input from other propagators is really great. Self sustaining? Remains to be seen.
    One system:

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    Xenia:

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    And some Trumpets we are working on:
     
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    Hi, Rod! I am busy setting up a 3-foot tank with sump inside my house to start propagating Zoanthids and palys. This is however only a temporary setup untill i can finish the greenhouse. I am aloso converting the center compartment of the sump of my sps tank into a frag growout area, complete with metal halide and two seio M820 pumps. My sps tank has been paying for its running costs and equipment upgrades from sales from the tank for the past 11 months! So, yes when done properly and with some patience coral farming can be done profitably in south africa.
     
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    Draft 1 for tank setup

    Well as you can see - I'm very artistic...:whistling:

    But below is a first draft of a species tank setup. Or mixed species that won't mind to be mixed...
    Like i've mentioned, this will be build in a some sort of green house.
    So problems that i'll face is heat, and winter's cold...
    any ideas?
    (Robin and the other invites - i'll come around later to check what you've done. Time is just not on my side...:()
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    I'll try to create multiple "group sets" like these.
    Not sure what will the ideal tank sizes be. Any input on that?
     
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    i'm no coral farm expert but it looks cool;)
     
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    The idea is that once there is enough water in a greenhouse, it cools much slower. You will still need heating at night in winter though.

    Overheating in summer is sorted with greenhouse vents and fans.

    Get Calfos book on Coral propogation for fairly thorough info.:)
     
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    Your initial idea seems to be good. Are you planning different spcies for each "tier" with a universal sump?
     
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