contradictions in reefkeeping?

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  1. mandarinman

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    There are many things done in reefkeeping. Lets see who can lost some.eg acclimatise fish prpperly so it doesnt die of shock but freshwater bath a fish to kill parasites. Dont change perameters too fast or corals will react badly and poss die but we dont acclimatise corals exept for temp
     
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  3. brentch

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    But do a big water change and the corals haven't looked happier...
     
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    I dont acclimate corals anymore ever since I accidently dropped a new stag into my tank and it was perfect. I even once transported sps with no water! but it was just like 5min
     
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    I acclimatize large sps colonies. I'm motivated to do so because of their price I guess, frags I just chuck in. Contradicting I know....
     
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    The last sps I acclimated didnt do so good compared to the ones I just threw in lol. I dont recommend not acclimating though
     
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    williet Look at the shiny LEDs!!!

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    But what about quarantining???
     
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    I think on the forum maybe 1% of people quarantine ;)
     
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    i think you'll find there is a higher percentage of people who quarenteen, and whilst adding a coral without aclimatisation might work (it doesnt always), not dipping it against nudi's and flat worms will lead to trouble in the long run.
     
  10. Tremayn

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    true. We all know we should but we dont
     
  11. mandarinman

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    guys i am talking about apparent contradictions not good or bad practices.eg rinse frozen food before feesing to reduce nutrients but we will pour the juice from an oyatwr or mussel into tank to feed invertibrates. Put both sides in not just one opinion.
     
  12. Albert Terego

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    Dosing carbon for bacterial growth but also running activated carbon.
     
  13. Lord_Blackadder

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    Freshwater dips and acclimation to a new tank are completely different things. For a freshwater dip the fish doesn't have time to adapt to the new osmotic pressure, that's why you can dip a fish and put it straight back into the water it came from. You can't take a fish out of the shipping bag, freshwater dip it and then put it into your system.

    This thread is probably gonna confuse the hell out of a lot of people...

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    Again, completely different things. Organic compounds vs. elemental carbon.
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    commenting/giving advice and never having done/tried your recomendation
     
  16. Albert Terego

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    No it isn't - vodka, acetate, sugar etc are all organic carbons - Activated carbon has no way to determine carbons which are "good" or which are "bad" - It will remove any organic carbon with molecules small enough to be trapped in it's pores.

    Unless I am reading you wrong Lord B my point was that we dose organic carbon to feed bacteria, but also run (some of us at least) activated carbon which will remove what we are adding.
     
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    Activated carbon removes some organic compounds, but certainly not ethanol (which is basically what vodka is). During vodka manufacture they actually filter it through carbon to purify it.
     
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    OK thanks, I thought activated carbon removed all organics.
     
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    The biggest contradiction of all is why we spend tens of thousands of rands in this hobby to keep alive livestock that usually costs a lot less than this - are we all mad?:thumbup: Probably....Reefkeeping fever....
     
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    Hake - R35/kg, Green Chromis - R20 000/kg :tt2:
     
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