as for honeymoon, thats going to wait a while so that we can recover from the wedding and will have to be after our summer (August) when we will head out to Fiji for diving and deep blue fly fishing
Clownfish @ my wedding?
- Thread starter erratiC
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Firstly let me say there is no reason for anyone to get nasty, we all have bad ideas but this isnt a good one irrespective of how you see it here is why
The hobby already puts enough strain/stress on the fish catching them in the first place and transporting them this should be minimized(it is responsible for 90% of the deaths in the hobby) , marine fish can take months to acclimate to environments not just hours, they acclimate to water faster but not the environment alot don't adjust and die from the stress- i have no doubt the wedding would shorten some of their lives- i am glad you decided against it and glad you were humble enough to ask for feedback.
there are much better ways to let people know about the hobby, plus people may get the impression that clownfish are as easy as the many abused goldfish which they are not , they have complex social structures and to display them in an inappropriate setting wherever it is , is just wrong!
In nature these fish are never found far from their hosts, and live on pristine reefs where anemones would thrive, just because we have cracked the code to breeding them doesnt mean they are now worth any less as living creatures even if they have become "Cheap"
Rather invite your guests over time to see your aquarium a much better introduction to the hobby.
The hobby already puts enough strain/stress on the fish catching them in the first place and transporting them this should be minimized(it is responsible for 90% of the deaths in the hobby) , marine fish can take months to acclimate to environments not just hours, they acclimate to water faster but not the environment alot don't adjust and die from the stress- i have no doubt the wedding would shorten some of their lives- i am glad you decided against it and glad you were humble enough to ask for feedback.
there are much better ways to let people know about the hobby, plus people may get the impression that clownfish are as easy as the many abused goldfish which they are not , they have complex social structures and to display them in an inappropriate setting wherever it is , is just wrong!
In nature these fish are never found far from their hosts, and live on pristine reefs where anemones would thrive, just because we have cracked the code to breeding them doesnt mean they are now worth any less as living creatures even if they have become "Cheap"
Rather invite your guests over time to see your aquarium a much better introduction to the hobby.
Lol, it sounds like a good compromise at first thought but it sounds like way too much work when you think about it - carting a tank around (I know I wouldn't skimp on size here because the way I see it is "you either go big or you go home" so that would be a mission in itself) and the sump with all the equipment... whew! Thanks again.
This is off-topic and I hate to sound like I'm blowing smoke up your arse here unnecessarily but you're too modest... anybody with as much skill and understanding as you possess where you're able to capture a fish's personality without it speaking or physically moving deserves ample praise and respect - I only wish that I was able to find someone locally to teach me how you're doing it
Cheers and thanks again.
Thanks Mudshark - I appreciate the response.
To be honest, I was almost expecting the responses that were given which is why I wasn't surprised when I read them. But to fully understand why a person says what he/she says what they say you have to put yourself into their shoes and respond to it without arrogance and spite.
From your point of view (yours being the poster), you don't know my situation/experience so you pull from your own experience to put your opinions across and because you don't know my situation/experience you take the side of the fish as something you know already. Also, we all know there are too many people who don't know enough about this hobby so again, to be safe, we take the side of the fish.
This got way too deep, sheesh....
No ways could I take an idea like that... way too personal and the fact that you even posted it here on an open forum speaks volumes. If I did use it I'd have to send you some cake (or in our case, a cinnebon as we don't do wedding cake) to say thanks
Absolutely awesome idea though - it must have been an incredibly personal, and also amazing, wedding.
My fiancée would probably love it.
You are willing to let them die? I gaurentee you some of them will die as a result of your actions. If you are happy to let them die then go for it
Some comments are getting a little out of hand. He posted the idea looking for suggestions/comments/help and never said he would definitely go through with it. The point of MASA is to be constructive, help fellow reefers and politely guid them in the right direction.
Just to clear things up for the speed readers - @erratiC are you still going to attempt clownfish in a vase?
Just to clear things up for the speed readers - @erratiC are you still going to attempt clownfish in a vase?
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I respectfully disagree...
An idea like this deserves all the negative attention it is receiving
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Its negative attention that discourages people from asking questions.
Broder
Mudshark
You disagree.... NOT respectfully though. You've dismissed it out of hand without giving reasons or bringing forward a new perspective. Erratic has been nothing but polite and accomodating to all suggestions, in the face of some serious negative criticism. Let's afford him the courtesy by at least responding in a similar fashion.
I was disagreeing respectfully with the mod's post, settle down
Why not have a poll?
1. All saying its ok to have clownfish in a bowl at a wedding table on one hand
2. Those thinking its a bad idea
1. All saying its ok to have clownfish in a bowl at a wedding table on one hand
2. Those thinking its a bad idea
Broder
Mudshark
Or you could word the poll question:
1. All those who think that having a several fish in a container with people looking at them is not that different to what we all do.
or
2. Stop all trade and confinement of fish, as it's cruel and unusual.
1. All those who think that having a several fish in a container with people looking at them is not that different to what we all do.
or
2. Stop all trade and confinement of fish, as it's cruel and unusual.
I highly doubt an established tank with heaters, pumps, rules etc can be compared to a fish bowl with kids and adults tapping the glass, putting "food" in the fish bowls, but what do i know
deadmeat2016
Wouter
Someone hasn't been reading the whole tread
he said no kids and intelligent guests.I do not understand all the negative comments and opinions towards this idea, from what i am reading people are putting their passions before reality. Yes we are all against cruelty, but this is not cruel, I think its an awesome 'concept' which erratic has obvious thought about alot and wouldn't consider it if he was murdering 40 clowns. his response to the comments inspires me, i would have called the idea off but he has put in more thought than most realize.
Dude, you have my support as a wedding is not jus a once off, some fish fly 13 hours on a plane with a tiny bag of water, clowns are hardy and don't usually get whitespot, they're so beautiful and 'funny', using them as an ambassador for the species is awesome. I just hope all goes well and may the goddess of water parameters be with u.
There's a fine ethical line within our hobby and I think the strong opinions (from either side) are just a good display of the passion involved in reef keeping. I personally wouldn't keep marine fish on the table as I know what a mission it was for my family to clear up the table decorations at our wedding, let alone worry about livestock!
As much as a novel idea it would be, the wedding is about you and your bride. I would just advise not to let any other things get in the way of you two on your special day. Your marine tank already stops you from having all the holidays and (stress free) get-a-ways already, don't let it add another juggling ball on your wedding day
Good luck bro! My first wedding anniversary was on 18 December and i'm loving it
As much as a novel idea it would be, the wedding is about you and your bride. I would just advise not to let any other things get in the way of you two on your special day. Your marine tank already stops you from having all the holidays and (stress free) get-a-ways already, don't let it add another juggling ball on your wedding day
Good luck bro! My first wedding anniversary was on 18 December and i'm loving it
Singularity
Hmmm amper!
erratic, good idea not to do it, having fish on the table would have been a bit "kitchy" anyway.
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Wow... I'm not going to even dignify this comment with a response... do you want to know what the worst part is? If I had had 10000 posts under my name you wouldn't have been so quick to not read the entire thread before posting this.
459b, a true moderator
and I am not doing it.Wow, again.
Someone hasn't been reading the whole tread
I do not understand all the negative comments and opinions towards this idea, from what i am reading people are putting their passions before reality. Yes we are all against cruelty, but this is not cruel, I think its an awesome 'concept' which erratic has obvious thought about alot and wouldn't consider it if he was murdering 40 clowns. his response to the comments inspires me, i would have called the idea off but he has put in more thought than most realize.
Dude, you have my support as a wedding is not jus a once off, some fish fly 13 hours on a plane with a tiny bag of water, clowns are hardy and don't usually get whitespot, they're so beautiful and 'funny', using them as an ambassador for the species is awesome. I just hope all goes well and may the goddess of water parameters be with u.
Thanks deadmeat - you've been open-minded since the beginning.. appreciated.
There's a fine ethical line within our hobby and I think the strong opinions (from either side) are just a good display of the passion involved in reef keeping. I personally wouldn't keep marine fish on the table as I know what a mission it was for my family to clear up the table decorations at our wedding, let alone worry about livestock!
As much as a novel idea it would be, the wedding is about you and your bride. I would just advise not to let any other things get in the way of you two on your special day. Your marine tank already stops you from having all the holidays and (stress free) get-a-ways already, don't let it add another juggling ball on your wedding day
Good luck bro! My first wedding anniversary was on 18 December and i'm loving it
Cheers, thanks Matt, appreciate the input.
Thanks Singularity... personally, if I went to a wedding and saw any type of fish be it clownfish and goldfish I wouldn't think it "kitchy" but each to his own and that's your view.
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Thank you to everyone that contributed to this thread. I've learned A LOT about the users on this forum and more about who's advice to follow than through the "Rep" and "Thanks" systems.