Clown not happy

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  1. Lowflyer

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    Hi guys, has anyone experienced this before, I'm lank worried. I introduced two black sebae clowns, one three days ago and one yesterday. The older one (smaller one) is doing great, eating and swimming around, but the newer (bigger one) one is actually lying on the bottom of the tank breathing heavily. I did a water change yesterday, but do you think that this could be because of ammonia burn on the guills on the trip to SA? I looks healthy on the outside, but almost seems like it's out of breath. Keep in mind that my skimmer is running, (water is airated).

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    It's a sad site, please help:(
     
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    Was it being harassed by the other clown, because maybe the one you put in first has already established its own territory and harassed the new comer.
     
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    Man Luke u seem to have the worst luck with fish! :( One of my ocellaris did that when i first got it, but think it was just the first day and then settled in. When u say out of breath, is there heavy breathing?
     
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    Manic, not about territory, the two clowns swim together like mates. Kunhardt, very heavy breathing
     
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    How did you acclimatise it?
     
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    Got the packet to the right temp and mixed water slowly by dipping the bag into the tank, I acclimatise all my fish over a period of time.
     
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    Dude you have really bad luck when it comes to fish hey. Cant suggest much its one of those wierd things that happen, just keep a eye on him. Good luck mate
     
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    Shot Dave, I do have bad luck, the other clown is doing well, but I failed to take a good long look at the fish in the LFS, so it's probably my own fault really. The other clown is out and about, but I did notice when I went into the LFS that one of the other clowns (black sebae too) was lying on it's side in the tank, wonder if it was ammonia burn to the guills from the trip to SA? Just read the acclimation thread in Tobes signature, think I went a bit too quick with acclimation too, I thought that the method I used was pretty normal though, but should've taken an extra 10 to 15 minutes or so, flip.
     
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    I know this was mentioned. Could well be that the old established one is bullying the new one, and you didn't see it and now he is hiding? I know and have seen that not all clowns can be paired. That's why the advice usually is if you wanna pair up clowns then look for a maited pair and introduce them together.
    Clowns are usually hardy fish, I doubt whether 15min would make a difference.
     
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    The thing is that the older clown is about 1cm smaller than the newer one and I had the older one in the sump, introduced them to the tank together
     
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    The clown is lying on it's side now
     
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    sh1t dude u have sh1t luck dude

    Head up keep going ill be holding thumbs for u

    CHeers
     
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    Shot man
     
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    eish thats not nice.hope he comes right man.
     
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    Thanks clinton, I hope so too, I know clowns are pretty hardy, but just hope it's not an infection from shipping. I have been told though that if it does die I can get another one in the next shipment at no cost, but I want this one to live.
     
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    hope that he comes right man
     
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    Holding thumbs for the little guy...hope he pulls through! I also had bad luck with this type of clown..lost 2 of them and then opted for the tank bread Percular Clowns! a little more hardy!
     
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    Hope it comes right boet, those black clowns are stunning.
     
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    Eish - sorry to hear this Luke! Holding thumbs that the little fish survives! I wonder whether this fish was wild caught, or tank bred? Do you really know?
     
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    Hey guys, thanks so much for the messages. I think it is wild caught as far as I know, and it is still kicking and breathing this morning. Do you think it could possibly be guill flukes? Should I try a freshwater dip? Otherwise I could set up a bucket as quarintine with a heater and small powerhead and do some copper treatment. What you guys think?
     
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