Chiller/Cooling Advice

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  1. Jt143

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    Hi ALL

    GOT A RSM 130D and as we know has a overheating problem

    QUESTION IS THUS

    whats the best way to cool the tank....

    My Options are:
    - a Fan system made of 2 silent PC fans and a temperature controller
    - A chiller

    considering the following

    1. Initial Hardware Cost
    2. Running cost
    3. Effectivity (in terms of Cooling)
    4. NOISE levels (as its in my living room a chiller is noisy)

    So any opinions

    It may be cheaper to buy SILENT PC fans and also more silent

    but maybe a chiller will be more effective

    in fact im thinking of a teco chiller but its costly

    advise/thoughts?
     
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  3. pkc

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    In relation to a chiller, get one slightly over rated to your water volume!!
    To use a chiller correctly you do not have it in the same room as the aquarium and most certainly not under the aquarium.
    In saying that I do have mine about four feet from my aquarium stand, but I have a vent into the garage and the chiller has a moulded plastic section I made to make seal against the wall so it exausts, “you might say”, through that vent only!
    Plus I take mine a part after each season and maintain it so its in good nick always.
    If they are in the same room, the chiller will heat the air in that room and heat your aquarium water to a degree so the chiller is working against it self.
    If it is near the aquarium the humidity will affect the supposedly sealed electrics.
    You can pipe it through walls, the holes are easy to fix with poly filler and have a matched small can of the walls paint colour on hand somewhere to repair the hole quick and easy so it looks like it never happened.
    This way it really doesn't matter if it is not a very quite one as well.
    Mine is an old resun of coming up on 8 years old now and it is dead silent and no its not dead yet,lol.
     
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    Few other ideas. Remove the ballast to outside the hood as these generate heat aswell.
    Remove standard lighting system and replace with LED. Rapid ledd has a retrofit kit for these tanks
    Fans do help alot. You might one as a intake and one as an exhaust so the air moves over the water surface cause evaporative cooling. Note this causes a much higher evaporation rate and you have to topup more often
     
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    Problem is I won't be able to put a chiller outside

    Outside where my tank is the front of the house

    The next question is wiling spending all the money on
    The fans and temp controller work
    Or will I end up just buying a chiller in the end?
     
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    Fans and a stc 1000 (from ebay) temp controller wont even cost you R600
     
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    In another room is fine or along the wall a little and vent it out side, its easy as!

    If it gets hot in your area, then yes you will either give up or buy a chiller.
     
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    Unfortunately placing it in another room or outside is not an option
    For me
     
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    Vent it to out side then, it is easy as!
     
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    How do u vent it to outside?
    May seem like stupid question but doesn't make sense
     
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    You cut a hole in the wall and put vent grills over the out side and the inside to stop bugs from getting in
    I used a $12 diamond blade on my angle grinder; they can cut through bricks like they are paper.
    Then for mine I cut around the top edge and cut the floor out of a small plastic tub a similar size to the back of the chiller as a four-sided sleeve to fit over the rear of the chiller to seal it up against the inside wall vent grill so no heated fan forced air enters the room, it is sent-vented to out side.
     
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    Apologies for hijacking the thread Jt143 :blush:

    When does one start to worry about the temp? My tank got to 28 degrees yesterday.

    Thanks
    Fanie
     
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    Hi Fanie

    Just do a forum search on this topic u wil find plenty of info
    It's more about stable temps but i did a search and found a lot

    Back to the original thread unfortunately there will be no cutting of
    My walls so that option is out
     
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    From 26c and above the salt waters chloride component is becoming more toxic and all of the many other elements and organic substances are becoming more toxic!

    The available oxygen is decreasing, PH is fluctuating, and fish’s gills can be suffering and not able to expel ammonia adequately causing potential ionic shock.
    You see the parts per million of everything unseen that is disgusting in an aquarium is enormous compared to the ocean, so an aquarium can less handle high temps and continue with good water quality.

    The most affected is the electromotive forces that is PH, this is the space between the base and acid where these forces are present that we test for as Ph and they will be all screwed up as the temp rises, that’s when you see who has actual good water quality and who does not!

    If you have done everything you can to disrupt your waters surface tension somewhere, then you will have less issues with elevated temps in a confined space as is a reef aquarium.

    The affects of high temps, if they are going to affect your tank life, are rarely straight away.

    Its like nitrate poisoning, that can take weeks to months for a death to occur from that and anything prolonged will cause more harm then a short term event.
     
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    That's a shame,it is a good way to keep your chiller working well, keeping things cool and a little more silent.
     
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    Look up an evaporation cooler on the forum
    I think one of the companies in Jozi make them ( I may be wrong)
    But they seem to be the best option besides a chiller.

    Not too sure about the inner workings, but maybe consider this
     
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    Have been through that option but it won't work with
    Red Sea max as the chiller has to be above the tank

    So that won't help me
     
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    pc fans with or without an stc1000 controller will be your best bet
     
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    Could you not use an overflow system and place the cooler above a small tank with a return back to the display ?
     
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