CHEAP diy frag setup

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  1. Evo R

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    Can anybody give me some ideas or advise on how to make a cheap frag tank.what do i need and do i have to go the normal route-skimmer,sump,dsb?

    This will be a frag tank only.and this has to be separet from my current nano tank.

    Any and all advise will be much apprechiated:thumbup:
     
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  3. Trev

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    I have seen alot of very simple but affective frag tanks the coolest one was 1000 x 600 x 250 and had a small chamber on the one side with some filter spung and lots of cheato and some LR also had a very neat home build airstone skimmer. For lighting it had two T5 tubes but I would have used 3 cfl's aswell
     
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    Depends what you fragging. I want to do a softy frag setup with a shallow tank and natural lighting or CFLs... Filtration shouldnt be too hectic with such a low bioload. Although when fragging some of the softies put out some nasty chemicals, activated carbon would be a good idea....

    Do you have a spot in your house that gets lots of natural light? That would definitely be first prize. For a frag tank it doesnt need to be too deep. I would say 15-25cm max, again this depends on what you want to frag. If you're using natural light in a shallow tank you might need shadecloth or some cover for some of the low light species...?
     
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    Don't think you need a sump but a little skimmer would probably help. If not put as much lr in as possible, construct an eggcrate cage for Chaeto with a light source above. Some activated carbon would be a good idea as well. Depending on size, lightling seems to be the most expensive thing, looking for cheap alternatives myself. What frags are going in, sps, lps, softies? If sps, gonna have to be diligent with manual dosing.
     
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    I want to do only softies for now.And the frag tank is going to be in the garage so no natural sunlight.what lights do i need?Maybe a hang on skimmer?Or those hang on filters with some carbon in them??
     
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    If you want the softies to grow faster then don't use a skimmer at all. I ran my one frag tank for a year without a skimmer and the softies were growing fast. When I put the skimmer on, it all slowed down.
     
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    I would just get one or two cheap little tanks as a "side-by-side" sort of sump. Wouldn't run a skimmer. Just hang a bag of carbon somewhere where it'll get lots of flow.
     
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    Can you perhaps show me a pic or to of your setup?My nano is running without a skimmer and i started say 3 months ago with only 2 mushrooms a ric the size of a R2 coin and a rock the size of your fist with say 10 or so zoa heads.

    From that 2 mushrooms i now have 9(they all split themselves) my ric is bigger than a R5 coin and the zoa's have covered the whole rock.

    So skimmerless must be good then?
     
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    Here are some pics:

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    Love the setups manic!
     
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    I run skimmerless too, havent had problems due to frequent, large water changes. What lighting are you running?
     
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    very nice setup there Manic:thumbup:
     
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    nice setup manic are u selling frags,i know someone who has a frag tanks and uses normal daylight tubes!sometimes simple is better
     
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    What tipe of lights will "boost" growth?
     
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    daylight (6500k) is good for growth. If you want to run cheap CFL lights they're usually sold as "Cool White" but you should look for spec sheets first. I use eveready 18w from spar.
     
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    CFL? Is that your normal everyday florecent tube?
     
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    Yep. Thats what lighting I use on my tank, even my frogspawn is doing well. *shock and horror! ;-) hehehe. My tank is only 25odd cm deep tho.
     
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    How expensive are those globes and ballasts?and how many would i need?on either a 3ft or a 4ft?
     
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    Ah, now thats the good news. Like all household CFLs they are self ballasted (its a single unit) and it retails for about R24... Hehehe. I have a meagre two above my little 2ft nano, but I am planning a little DIY light unit with 3 or 4 CFLs and 2 actinics.
     
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    They need to be replaced every 3 months though.
     
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