Caveat emptor

Discussion in 'General Discussions and Advice' started by red deacon, 19 Mar 2016.

  1. red deacon

    red deacon

    Joined:
    20 Jul 2014
    Posts:
    348
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    Gauteng
    Caveat emptor/ˌkævɛɑːt ˈɛmptɔːr/ is Latin for "Let the buyer beware"

    Yesterday I went past a few of the LFS and to be honest was amazed at the difference in prices on livestock. Now I get it that prices vary and factors like size come into play, but when prices on "common" species like Chromis vary by 200%, then clearly people are being ripped. I wont even comment on pricing on things like Regal Tangs and the like whose prices have doubled in the last 2 months.

    My advice is do your homework before spending your cash. You will save a fortune.
     
    Last edited: 19 Mar 2016
    Esmond likes this.
  2. AdS Guest




    to hide all adverts.
  3. DOHCTOR

    DOHCTOR

    Joined:
    16 Apr 2010
    Posts:
    94
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    BK,Cape Town
    I went to a few shops with the wife after a long time. I know we always get the Rand Dollar story and also the Mac approved or whatever approved.
    Things that caught my eye the most

    Blonde Naso (M)
    Shop 1 - R 350
    Shop 2 - R 1200

    True Purple Tang - R 2800

    Orange Shoulder
    Shop 1 R295
    Shop 2 R 695

    Blue Green Chromis
    Shop 1 R50
    Shop 2 R150

    Damsels
    Shop 1 R80
    Shop 2 R135

    Just to name a few and I have seen people buy bags and bags
     
    Last edited: 19 Mar 2016
  4. red deacon

    red deacon Thread Starter

    Joined:
    20 Jul 2014
    Posts:
    348
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    Gauteng
    Yup I experienced something very similar yesterday.
     
  5. NJH

    NJH

    Joined:
    25 May 2012
    Posts:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    178
    Location:
    Helderkruin
    I am looking for an orange shoulder. Which shops have one?
     
  6. DOHCTOR

    DOHCTOR

    Joined:
    16 Apr 2010
    Posts:
    94
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    BK,Cape Town
    I saw them in CT which area you in
     
  7. NJH

    NJH

    Joined:
    25 May 2012
    Posts:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    178
    Location:
    Helderkruin
    Wont help. I am in Gauteng.
     
  8. Esmond

    Esmond

    Joined:
    9 Jun 2009
    Posts:
    510
    Likes Received:
    18
    Location:
    Johannesburg

    Agree 100% 1 lfs wanted to sell me a 3cm chromis for R190-00
     
  9. EFJ

    EFJ MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    13 Sep 2011
    Posts:
    1,540
    Likes Received:
    280
    Location:
    Dwaalboom 60km's from Thabazimbi
    @NJH I think Idol Marine has one.
     
  10. NJH

    NJH

    Joined:
    25 May 2012
    Posts:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    178
    Location:
    Helderkruin
    Thanks. What size?
     
  11. red pepper

    red pepper

    Joined:
    7 Feb 2011
    Posts:
    415
    Likes Received:
    75
    Location:
    Fourways
    Controversial subject and I see not many comments.
    Been through this, rescued fish and seen why prices may differ and suffered consequences of taking chances on just landed, impatient and impulsive buying.
    Some observations I have seen in my short time in the hobby:
    1. Exchange rate fluctuations
    2. Different packaging/transport modes - Some fish arrive in single big bags plenty water. Water heavy extra transport cost(weight factor), but fish normally in better condition
    3. How fish are caught - easy way is with toxins eg Cyanide - doubt fish will live long, and they will definitely be cheaper
    4. Good idea to arrive at an LFS when a shipment arrives and gets unpacked - how many already dead on arrival, and how many by the next day? - you need to see it, and find out what shipments are good which are bad, and what the genuine reason was.
    5. Often see posts of fish not eating - did the individuals care to make sure before they took them that they were eating.
    6. Responsible LFS will always make sure the fish eat before selling, others will try and sell as quickly as possible.
    7. Marketing opportunity, bulk buying, target marketing etc,etc.

    At the end of the day, as hobbyist we are all responsible to ensure the well being of our livestock rests with us, and who and what we support. Unless you know the circumstances of every shipment, where, what, how, and from, its hard to compare prices. I agree if the fish arrives from the exact same shipping agent and there are massive fluctuations, then maybe you have a point. But remember depending on overheads, some might have to mark up more than others, its not a massive industry and especially for the specialist not a massive income generator that its perceived to be, plus the various points that I highlighted above have to be fully considered.

    You must try the Koi industry:y13:.
     
    TaahirS, viper357 and r0ckf1re like this.
  12. oliver

    oliver

    Joined:
    1 Mar 2015
    Posts:
    327
    Likes Received:
    92
    Location:
    Abu Dhabi
    I have the same proplem here but I understand it ,its a small specialist portion of the market so the price difference between places is to me acceptable.
     
Recent Posts