Catching the Smoking GUn

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  1. mytank

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    Hi all,

    I suspect a pistol shrimp in my tank. Haven't added anything for about three months to the tank however in the last two to three weeks I heard the dreaded clicking noise from the tank DT. If I feed I hear the noise and at night it is constantly going off.

    I have done some research found something pretty impressive on YouTube:


    Now tried the slanted glass didn't work caught nothing.

    What other methods you guys use to catch the irritating bugger. All my cleaner shrimps (5) , 2 peppermint and 1 fire cracker shrimp are still alive - for now.
     
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  3. Helga

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    You can really relax if its a Tiger Pistol Shrimp! I have had one for 2 years now (Yes.... I bought him). He is paired with a Yellow Watchman Goby and they're actually very dosile and have never posed any threat to any of my shrimps, hermits or fish. They're always together..... hardly come out from under the rock and if I see them, its actually quite fascinating to watch the simbiotic relationship!
     
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    @Helga, I have spent each night an hour or two trying to pin point the bugger but cant find him, I just hear the noise. I want to catch him to figure out what he is.
     
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    Could give u a nice little surprise oneday when rummaging around ur liverock haha
     
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    Some more interesting research
     
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    unlikely, although a peacock mantis might make your thumb tingle somewhat. But you would know if its a peacock mantis shrimp. Most other pistol shrimps are way to terrified of your fingers near their holes to come out and attack you.

    mytank very often pistol shrimp are small and very secretive so you best chance is at night with a red covered torch light and a good dose of patients. I dont think your shrimps are in nightly danger of being hunted although i do agree with you that pinpointing him and id'ing the pistol would be a good plan.

    one option if you absolutely cannot find him at night with a torch is to separate sections of the reef and have sand between sections of LR. I did this fairly well a while ago by removing pieces of LR and having small 'islands' of rock on the sand bed. then when i had heard the clicking from a specific stack i had the shrimp fairly well localized and i removed that pile to a bucket with circulation and i caught three fairly easily like this. But i admit that was in an unestablished tank and it was no problem to move and remove LR as i wanted.

    'Mouse' had a big issue with pistols and came up with some great methods to remove them once she had them isolated in a specific piece of LR. Do a search under her threads you will find some excellent info.
     
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    Thanks @crispin yeah the tank is becoming established now but will be tearing it apart soon to create islands (intended) ;) I just fed now and its been pretty silent and alas the clicking started now again.

    I will try track down 'Mouse' thanks for the tip.
     
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    @crispin can't find that thread of hers, but whilst doing some research and searching on this forum i see @magman seems to be a master at catching them.

    Any suggestions other than ripping the tank apart?
     
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    i'll have a search for you, mouses tank thread was one of the most entertaining threads ever on masa, its worth digging out again :)
     
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    i havent read all the threads (obviously) but here are two to start with....

    Mantis help - Marine Aquariums of South Africa

    Mantis Help - Marine Aquariums of South Africa (a nice tip in here from hennie about getting them out once you have them located)

    and i am sure you will find some other info in her tank thread new as the day I was born - Marine Aquariums of South Africa, even if only for a good chuckle.

    I see @Mouse that bridget Jones was active last week so perhaps she will pop in and help you if she sees this thread :)
     
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    Ahhh @crispin thanks I will read up on them now!
     
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    I don't think I'd want to risk playing with them :)
    Here's some random info off wikipedia, saw it on tv once upon a time that they super heat the water. Fascinating little creatures.

    The snap can also produce sonoluminescence
    from the collapsing cavitation bubble. As it
    collapses, the cavitation bubble reaches
    temperatures of over 5,000 K (4,700 °C).[15] In
    comparison, the surface temperature of the sun
    is estimated to be around 5,800 K (5,500 °C).
    The light is of lower intensity than the light
    produced by typical sonoluminescence and is
    not visible to the naked eye.
     
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    my pleasure.

    just one thing though, pistols shrimps are made out to be real terrors and absolute killers which they arent. the noise can be irratating and its def worth finding them. but he didnt choose to be in your tank. he was forced in there. so when you find him, and i am sure you will think about what you want to do with him with that in mind ok:)


    also i think sara had a clicking noise in her tank, you could find out what she did to find it, i am sure she would have asked some pretty clever people (prob her hubby) on what to do. @sihaya any ideas?
     
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    @crispin agreed he didn't ask and when I catch him if I don't want to keep him I will give him away to someone that does want it. I will only toilet it if I see it doing damage physically....
     
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    sure, and the shock wave they produce is said to have the velocity of a .22 when fired. I get all that. what I am saying is that they are HIGHLY unlikley to attack you finger when you pick up a piece of LR when working in the tank (other than the peacock mantis which is nicknamed 'the thumb splitter' for good reason).

    but as i say mytank would know its a peacock mantis I am sure:)
     
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    great to hear. besides you maywell be able to pair him with a yasha goby or the like, its a truley beautiful simbiotic relationship between many of the smaller goby's and shrimps.


    that might be an option on locating the shrimp if all else fails, adding a goby that pairs with pistols and see if they locate each other. Just a thought.
     
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    Hmm a reason to add another fish :) :) - might go that route once all the fish are in QT trying to clear do a full tank QT.
     
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    any luck in finding the pistol shrimp yet?
     
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