Can I add all these fish into my tank?

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  1. TanyaB

    TanyaB

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    Our tank is 2m X 60cm X 70cm (water level is 65cm)

    What we have:
    1 X Sand sifting goby
    1 X Regal Tang
    1 X Cleaner wrasse
    1 X Copperband
    2 X Clowns
    2 X Bangaii Cardinal

    What we want:
    1 X Blond Naso
    1 X Flame Angle
    1 X Morish Idol leaving this one (Will get a nice pic and put it up on the wall:m12:)
    1 X Mandarin
    1 X Red Scooter Dragonet
    1 X Royal Dottyback
    5 X Bartlett’s Anthias – 1 male
    1 X Yellow Tang 1 X Purple Tang
    1 X Foxface


    Clean Up Crew that we have:
    3 X Slakke – 2 are under the sand

    1 X Sand sifting starfish
    1 X Blue knuckle hermit
    1 X Cleaner shrimp
    1 X Peppermint shrimp

    Clean Up Crew that we still want:
    1 X Fire shrimp
    2 X Turbo snails

    Other that we still want:
    1 X Red starfish
    1 X Anamone - for the clowns



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    Will it be possible to add all of these to the tank?

    Please be kind this is the only tank that we have and all of our dreams must fit in....:m05:

    If all cannot go in witch ones must we rather leave?

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  3. mariusmeyer

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    Moorish idols have a very low survival rate so I would skip that one. If you can find a mandarin and dragonet that eats prepared foods then they are fine. They sometimes only eat copepods etc so you might need like a refugium to provide the pods with a decent breeding ground. Anthias is sometimes dicey but if you can get some to take flakes etc then they can do well. The rest of the list looks fine.
     
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  4. TanyaB

    TanyaB Thread Starter

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    Thanks,
    Do you think the tank is big enough for all the fish on the list?
     
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    I am going to suggest a little more rock in the DT first.

    What are your water parameters and what filtration do you have?
     
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    It will all depend on your filtration. More rock is needed as Nemos janitor suggested as this will not only provide you with more natural filtration but also help create a breading ground for the amphipods and copepods. So elaborate on your current filtration as requested by Nemos, and we can see from there if you are equipped to handle the higher bioload.
     
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    sorry no.
    You simply do not have enough sleeping place for 22 fish in there.

    The copperband, mandarin and dragonet will all go for the same food. I will rather leave them for now. Only when you got enough rock that could house enough pods for them. Then also I will first look into one of them only.

    And as mentioned, rather skip the Moorish Idol. Alternative fish in colors and basic shape is the or the Dephreutes butterfly. Reef safe and does not bother the other.

    You can have more algae eating snails.
     
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    And as mentioned, rather skip the Moorish Idol. Alternative fish in colors and basic shape is the or the Dephreutes butterfly.


    How are thay with a Sailfin tang.
    Will sail Sailfin attack it coz of its shape shape.
     
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    I do not see an issue with the stock you would like to add most of them are small fish. As stated above more live rock and leave the moorish. Also filtration is very important. I am sure you are not going to add all that fish at once but as time goes by. I have seen smaller tanks with the same amount of fish if not more
     
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    Hi - I would tend to agree with RiaanP, too many fish, quite a diverse selection, which may pose problems with ensuring everyone gets to eat at feeding times, which could result in overfeeding, which requires heavy filtration. Not impossible, but will require good husbandry and strong filtration in my opinion. PS - make sure you have solid quarantine regiment if you are planning to add so many fish.
     
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    Hi Tanya - My tank is the same size as yours and I have 26 fish and lots of inverts. I have 200kg of live rock (well established) and everything is going well. Planning to go up to 30 fish eventually.
     
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    Thanks, I will defiantly add more live rock.

    I will take some pics of the sump later today and post them.

    In the sump we have a skimmer, ceramic rings, bio balls, some matrix and about 10kg live rock.
    We want to add a plastic bucket filled with play sand for a deep sand bed and then some cheanto.
    We already have some pods running around in the sump.

    Clowning you are right we will be stocking the tank very slowly.
     
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    Stocking all those will need some planning.
    For instance adding tangs one at a time could be problematic, esp seeing as there is a purple in the mix.
     
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    You want more clean up crew than that. Once hermit and two turbo snails is far too few.
     
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    Thanks guys,
    I really appreciate all the help.
    459b how big of an clean up crew do we need?

    Here is a couple of pics of the sump. I know we need a lot more live rock.
    We have decided against a dsb. And we have also decided to cut the Yellow Tang, Purple Tang, Foxface and the Moorish Idol.

    Can someone please tell me if the skimmer is to low in the water or not?

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    Skimmer looks way too low. What model is it? It might have a line on the side showing correct water depth or will say so in its instruction manual.

    My tank is 1.3m x 55cm x 60 cm and i have about 20 hermits and prob 10-15 snails (hard to tell cause hermits and clowns keep eating them as fast as i can add them).
     
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    need to raise the skimmer a bit. At a minimum, its outlet should be just above water.

    Glad you did chuck out that plastic concept of a sump that came with the tank. The glass sump works a lot better. Think its time for me to stop by again.
     
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