Calling all forces ( Help with elegance)

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  1. wvdheever

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    I need some help with my elegance coral.

    It seems to be dying from the one side.

    I had it for just over a month and it opened up beautifully but over the last 2 days it started to show signs that it is not happy by not opening as big as it used to. I also noticed that the fleshy part started falling off exposing the skeleton.

    Tank parameters.
    PH - 8.3
    Po4 - 0.5 mg/l
    No3 - 5 mg/l
    No2 - 0.1 mg/l

    Lighting . I run 3 x 1500 odyssea T5
    Globes Changed out (12000k White, 10000k White, Marine Blue, Pink)

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    a quick observation:
    your NO2 should be 0, while not overly toxic in saltwater it doesnt indicate a issue in your biological filtration. PO4 is a little on the high side and could possibly be a cause/irritant to the coral.

    i wouldnt disturb the coral and let it be, is there a brown jelly near the place where the coral left the skeleton? i am not sure about dipping as it might cause more stress.

    i would test your ammonia and check that its 0
     
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    Fresh water dip for my frogspawn coral revealed flat worms and a few hours after that it opened like a bomb.
     
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    was it peeling from the skeleton?
     
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    That is the only difference, it was not peeling from the skeleton (I also have NO2 issues in my tank). You may have flat worms and something else or just something else as Dallas advised above :)
     
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    Testing it now ... will give you feedback in 20 min
     
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    The clown is also not doing it any favours and might be stressing it. How much flow is it getting?
    However, a dip in an iodine dip like seachem's coral dip might help but the clown will remain an issue.
     
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    OH yes and there is no signs of brown jelly
     
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    It does not get a lot of flow I would would say medium to low

    I suppose the clown might cause some problems but it has been living in the elegance since the day I put it in the tank.
     
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    Also do a search for elegance coral polyp bail out. I remember reading up on it some time ago.

    The clown will remain a problem. A clown hosting in an lps is bound to cause damage or even kill it.
     
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    Fresh water dip ... Please give me the 101 on the method ... haven't tried it before
     
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    Can you get an anemone for the clowns rather?
     
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    I do have.

    1 x purple foot.
    1 x bubble tip.
    1 x carpet anemone.

    He still likes to live in the elegance :(
     
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    I recommended new or unhealthy fish/coral to be immersed in freshwater for a short time to kill off various external parasites which can not survive the freshwater environment.

    1. Make freshwater same temp as aquarium.
    2. Make freshwater pH same as aquarium (I skip this).
    3. Put fish in freshwater with aeration for 3-6 minutes or put coral in freshwater and shake until parasites lose their grip and fall off.
    4. Throw away contaminated freshwater.

    *Do not stress when you see your fish on it's side, but try to keep it moving/swimming through out.

    *Seachem Paraguard is another method for parasite eradication.
     
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    @dallasg

    Ammonia - 0
     
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    Thanks will give it a bash and let you know
     
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    Is it secured to the rock? Elegance prefer being in the substrate.
    Dying form one side could be physical damage.
    Unless you can see parasites or disease, freshwater dip will prob cause more harm than good
     
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    I do not think your elegance has a parasite or bug problem from what you have described and I am not a fan of freshwater dipping stressed out corals. It will most likely cause more harm.
     
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    I agree. Also if it is on the rock none of its "flesh" must not touch the rock. It can expand alot and if it touches the rock it can damage it's flesh leading to infection. I learned this the hard way. The second one I had was properly fixed tot the rock work with nothing touching and had it for over two years before my clowns hosted it to death.
     
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    UPDATE !!!

    Fresh water dip done ! .... No worm, but I did find something very interesting.

    As I picked up the elegance from the LR there was a massive snail of some sort on the rock just beneath the elegance. Don't know if it was the culprit but I will monitor the elegance and keep you posted.

    Here is a pic of the snail

    slak.jpg
     
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