Buying first SLR cam advice

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  1. Furbz

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    Hi Guys,

    My girlfriend and myself enjoy going to kruger park, and we are now looking to buy our first SLR camera.

    In the past we have always borrowed a D90 Nikon.
    it had a 300mm lens.
    we found it to be fantastic for wildlife photography on an amature scale.

    we aren't looking for hightech equipment as we arent super avid photographers,
    however we do enjoy the feel and quality that we get from the D90.

    with that in mind we are currently looking into purchasing our own camera.

    from what i can find the canon 500D looks like a decent option, and is currently going at a very attractive price.

    from what i can see, Nikon seems to be a premium price bracket when looking at a similiar sort of cam. ie more expensive?

    i am not totally against buying a well looked after used camera, but i dont want to get something that is going to be outdated.

    could anyone with some experience in this field pls help point me in the right direction? maybe give some pointers wrt camera's to look at, what makes to steer clear of, decent deals, maybe you have a camera you could offer, etc.

    any help would be appreciated.

    i have done alot of reading and just feel a bit lost.
    i understand what the articles are saying, its just the market is a bit overwhelming.

    Thanks

    Keith
     
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  3. tjiPPi

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    In my opinion you can look at the 550D or 600D (depending on your budget). The 550D supports video which might be useful sometimes.

    You'll then need a zoom lens because the kit lens is not going to cut it for wildlife. The cheaper lenses that you could look at that's under R5k:

    Canon EF-S 55-250mm f4.5 - 5.6 IS
    Sigma 70-300mm APO f4 - 5.6

    From there on they go for R5k to R23k, like the
    Canon EF 70-300 f4 - 5.6 IS USM (+-R5k)
    or
    Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 L IS II USM (+-R23.5k)

    I have the Sigma lens. Although it's an OK lens for a beginner but I do miss stabilization.
    You could also look at the second-hand market. Sometimes you can find some nice glass.

    I can't comment on Nikon though:blush:
     
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    thanks man,

    i'm in no hurry to buy as we are only next going up to the park in sept.

    there are alot of attractive deals at the moment, any reason in not waiting til sept to buy?
    on the basis that things may get cheaper?
     
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    Normally the only time when you will see a notable change in price on the cameras is when a new model is released. Although they do tend to drop in price as time goes by, but not by much though.

    But do keep an eye out for specials.

    If you are anything like me, I hate waiting:blush:. I always convince myself to get it asap (if I know that there isn't a new release in the next couple of months) so that I can "practice and get to know" it. But that's just me:p
     
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    lol, i am exactly like you.
    but this purchase is a decidely large amount out of my pocket...
    so this i am happy to wait on!

    that 550D kit is awesome, just the wrong lenses! ga!
     
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    I'm biased 'cos I have a nikon D90 :)

    Nikon is slightly overpriced in SA compared to canon by about 10-20%. There's some good combo deals sometimes at makro/game etc. As an ultimate kruger lens I would love a 70-200mm f2.8 but those are about 25k. The reason for this lens being that you can use it in low light in the mornings and evenings which is when you usually see the best stuff anyway, and then use an extended like a 2x during the day and it will still be reasonably fast and give you 400mm.
    At the moment though I'm using the 18-200mm which is more for a budget. New was about 8k, maybe a bit less now. It's decent in the kruger but you still want a longer lens for little birdies and when the leopard sits in the tree OVER THERE. Sigma make a few different 500mm lenses if you really want length but they are quite big to carry around etc. In the low budget range there's a 70-300mm from sigma and one from nikon.
     
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    i am with you on the nikon D90(moms camera), really love using it!
    she is an avid birder and so has alot of very nice toys to go with it...

    i think at the moment we are quite liking the special on the 500D (might be getting a bit old????) coupled with a 300mm stabalized lens...

    i am very tempted to bite the bullet and get the 550D or 600D.
    but i am unsure if i will get gaining any extra worth in this...

    it also makes sense maybe for us to buy a decent cam and maybe 1 decent lens and slowly build up?
    this way it might be more expensive but at least we are buying quality lenses...

    this make sense?
     
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    quick question:

    kit lenses = crap??
     
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    No, it's quite good considering its price. I'm not sure if the 500D comes with the newer stabilized one though (that's the 18-55mm IS lens). Just check to make sure - not that the non IS one is bad:)
     
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    ok, great,

    another question.

    i see lenses with built in stabalisation.

    what on earth is ultra sonic motor?
     
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    It is the motor used inside the lens that moves the focusing element in the lens. The motor is much quieter and faster than the old focus motors.
     
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    worth it?
    how much faster is it?
    we are trying to get a good bundle for under R10k...
     
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    I don't actually have a lens with USM, but I suppose it could help when trying to focus on fast moving objects like a bird flying.

    I have a Sigma and Tamron lens that sounds like a cat being slaughtered when focusing:p. So hopefully the next lens will have USM and IS.
     
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    If you looking at Canon lenses, and on budget, rather look at the ones with the "gold rim/line" around the front of the lens. It is a step up from the white, silver line lenses.

    Here is another place you can find good specials:

    View Latest Specials
     
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    thanks guys. i really appreciate the help
     
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    One of the main differences between the 550D and the 600D is the wireless flash trigger. But this only becomes useful when you starts doing things like still life, portraits and some minor studio work. But I dont think its worth the price. For the difference you can get yourself a set of radio triggers to do that.
     
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