Butterfly tank

Discussion in 'Fish Only Tanks, Predator Tanks' started by FransSny, 19 May 2012.

  1. FransSny

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    Today I received my old corner tank back from @ lcornelius , so I have beem thinking how about a butterfly (Cheatodon sp.) only tank.

    These guys have always been cool but due to the reef safe factor being almist zero I have always avoided them.

    I thought it could be a nice FOWLR display for the shop...

    Any thoughts on mixing species etc
     
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    i like the idea - love butterflies
    @Lord Blackadder got a bfly tank on the way?
     
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    I've found that you can mix them relatively freely as long as they don't look similar. If you want to add similar looking species like auriga and vagabundous for example, they need to be of a similar size and introduced at the same time. I have most of the local species in my coral tanks and find that they pretty much leave sps, sinularia and leather type corals alone apart from the odd love bite. Anything with tentacles is history.
     
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    I've got 9 species together at the moment. Well, 4 and 5 next to each other in holding tanks. Just need to follow a few rules and they should get along. Try to get them all a similar size, and not too big or too small. Between 3cm and 5cm is a good size IME. Try to add them at the same time. Try to avoid closely related species. For example C. auriga and C. vagabundus usually hate each other. Obviously also stay away from the obligate coral feeders such as C. meyeri, C. trifasciatus and C. trifascialis.

    Because they're quite disease prone, you should definitely quarantine them to make sure you have a whitespot-free system. I didn't have any trouble getting them to feed, but then mine are all locally caught.
     
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    long nose butterfly is a must :p
     
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    Thanks for the reply guys , the tank was placed in its spot today so quite keen on this project.

    I am planning on moving all my LR , matured water from my cube etc straight over once the plumbing is done ( I only stay 1 km from the shop, so die off will be minimal)

    Seeing that a member was so kind as to donate Aptasia , I am sure a Copperband wouldn't hurt the mix !

    Being more of a predator person , I havent really got a "wish list" as such , but would like to have something interesting as a display in the shop...so feel free to shout ouot those ideas please :)
     
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    Ehhh, copperband is one I'd actually avoid. I think the other butterflies will outcompete it for food and they're prone to just keeling over. Rather go for a longnose (Forcipiger). Pretty much any Chaetodon will eat Aiptasia and likely a lot faster than a copperband.

    I've got my lions with my butterflies and they seem to go quite well together. Butterflies are awkward shaped balls of spikes so lions will have a very hard time eating them unless you have a big size difference. Butterflies aren't particularly greedy eaters either, so the lions get plenty of food.

    As for other species...

    Chaetodon xanthocephalus - looks great if you can get one (Sri Lanka maybe?).
    C. collare - for a change of colour.
    C. guttatissimus/punctatofasciatus - for the same reason.
    C. xanthurus - or any of the "pearlscale" species
    C. rafflesi
    C. lunula
    C. interruptus
    Heniochus monoceros
    Forcipiger flavissimus

    If you have cash to blow:

    C. semilarvatus
    C. mitratus
     
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    Very nice I will be following this with interest.
    Butterflies are really beautiful fish.
     
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    Awesome list , quite a few I had been thinking about as well. I have to agree after doing some more reading the weekend , I have also been wondering if a Copperband would survive long term, thanks for confirming my concerns. I will just stick to a longnose

    C mitratus, ooooh nice but I only have one kidney left already, maybe one can survive without kidneys :biggrin:
     
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    Now the bug has hit me so while placing my order with the supplier I added a few things to start off with:

    C xanthocephalus
    C semilarvatus
    C ornatus (not sure about this guy though , I havent been able to find a lot of info)
    Forcipiger flavissimus

    As with all imports you dont always get what you order , but lets see !
     
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    C. xanthocephalus, C. semilarvatus and F. flavissimus are awesome species. If you mean C. ornatissimus for the other one, then stay away! It only eats Pocillopora and Montipora polyps.

    I put the first 5 butterflies into my overhauled tank today. Will hopefully get some time for photos tomorrow.
     
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    Tag along. This will look quite cool...
     
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    Frans how about sharing your plans for sump and flow!
     
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    Also have a look at the Prognathodes genus
    I still like the wrought irons the most
    This was the one I had
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    I think Chaetodon collare is lovely. - a shoal of these with a few other butterflies for colour would be awesome - and maybe one show angel in the mix for variety.
     
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    Pakistani Fly!:yeahdude: Soooooo Pretty!
     
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    Yeah I also love C. collare. One of the few butterflies that tolerates it's own species too. Thinking about getting some, but they'll need to be small to avoid issues with my existing flies.
     
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    Both need much cooler water than the average tank. Not very practical except in a specialised setup.

     
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    Exactly what I was trying to find out. Thanx for the heads up :) So to be on the safe side I swapped for C aureofasciatus

    Please Share !

    Thanks...my first attempt at butterflies , I really hope it goes well

    Straight forward Lean , Oversised skimmer , LR and return. As for internal flow I am going with the new Hydor Kordalia powerheads due to their small size and wide flow angle

    They are way cool but the temp thing worries me a bit Yuri, did you have them in their own setup ?

    MMMMM, show angel ...talk to me :whistling: Maybe C Duboulayi ?
    Yo Chicka buddy where you been ?
     
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    Why are you using past tense?
     
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