Breeding Aiptasia eating Berghia in Cape Town

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  1. robvdv

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    I've wanted to try breeding Berghia nudibranches for several years. I finally got all my permits together and brought them back from the USA on a business trip. The customs guy at Cape Town International scrunched up his nose. "Slugs?". "Yeah, slugs".

    Anyway, here they are:

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    I brought in 6, but 3 of them snuffed it. They're not so easy. The remaining 3 are doing well and producing lots of egg ribbons, so hopefully I'll have some babies soon.
     
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    Do you know who broings them in or what price your babies would be
     
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    Wow Rob that's just awesome, I take it you breeding aptasia too? I've always wanted one of these guys but too worried that there won't be enough aptasia to feed on. I wish you all the best & hope they make many little buggers:thumbup:
     
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    Hectic... I had 2 of these in my tank... I killed them before finding out what they were!! I feel terrible about that! Maybe they made eggs before i nuked them? One can only hope...

    How big are your guys Rob?
     
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    Some guys have brought them in, but nobody has been successful keeping or breeding them. I don't know if I'm going to be successful either, so I don't know what the prices will be. My costs were pretty hectic, so I'd like to recoup some of that.

    Slagter, there are a few slugs in this genus. It's unlikely you'd have received this species as a hitchhiker.
     
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    They were absolutely identical to the pic you posted... In fact here is a pic:

    From the under side:
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    What do you think?
     
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    I dunno, Slagter. There are a few it could be. Here's a Google image search of the genus:

    aeolidiella - Google Search

    My instinct says no, but it's possible it's the same species. Yours looks a little chunkier and more colourful than mine. Colour is dependent on diet, so maybe that's not taxonomically significant.

    Not intentionally, but I have a lot ;)

    They came in around 12mm, but now they're probably around 15mm - 18mm+. Together, they've probably eaten around 12 to 20 Aiptasia (haven't counted).
     
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    Hmmm... There are quite a few different ones that it could be... Some pics look like the Berghia, some look like the stefaniae... I don't know. Thanks for the info man! If I see any more, I'll try catch it and take a good pic!
     
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    The current scientific species name is "Aeolidiella stephanieae". It was originally known as "Berghia verrucicornis". Berghia is now the common name for this slug.
     
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    So then it's one of the good ones? Or have I just lost my marbles?
     
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    They're one and the same. It's the good one.

    Other species are Aeolidiella alderi, Aeolidiella alba etc. I don't know anything about these species, but I think it's unlikely they'll be obligate feeders on Aiptasia sp. The one Aeolid off our coast that I know of eats an anemone of some sort, but I can't remember which one (not Aiptasia).
     
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    Do they munch upon Zoas?

    Sorry to hijack your thread like this Rob.

    The ones that you breed, how are you going to be able to give them a constant supply of aiptasia? Are you going to be breeding Aips? And how are you going to breed the aiptasia?
     
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    These are awesome and i am glad some are finally available locally they are the best for aiptasia as it is all they eat when aiptasia is gone you need to give them up or they die or get aiptasia for them- Well done Rob i hope you breed thousands!!
    the things going against them are some fish may eat them and they can be killed by pumps but unlike peppermint shrimps they will only eat aiptasia if they are true berghia or should i say Aeolidiella stephanieae
     
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    Wow Rob, something different. Wishing you lots of luck with them and hoping they breed like mad.
     
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    Hope they multiply by the millions.
     
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    Good luck Rob, if you succeed I am sure you are going to have guys banging down your doors to get their hands on some. :p
     
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    Cool Rob, would like some in time again.

    Biggest job is controlling the boom and bust nature of these buggers, one second you have a million aptastia and an egg coils then little happens for a while. Then suddenly no more aptaisia and the bergia also seems to have died out. A mission to control in a tank.

    As a dosing system it works well I think. Well done on bringing them in.
     
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    No, they're obligate feeders on Aiptasia anemones. That means they can't/won't eat anything else.


    I have a _lot_ of Aiptasia. It grows in the usual way.

    Yup, these are the real deal.

    Sure. Let's hope it works out. It hasn't been plain sailing so far.
     
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    Any update here Rob
     
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    Nothing good, I'm afraid. I had a dinoflaggelate outbreak which killed a number of snails and, I suspect, helped kill the Berghia. I took 4 egg ribbons and placed them in 4 separate Aiptasia containing tanks, but so far I haven't seen any hatchlings. Maybe in time I'll see some.
     
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