Urgent help needed Boxing shrimp on back

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  1. Jamie

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    Just got a boxing shrimp, tank 3 weeks in cycle, acclimated him slowly ... he is on his back doing nothing
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  3. JS

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    Ah no man.....did you test your water before adding him?
     
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    only salinity, temp was 26.... he died.
     
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    Was he your first to be added to the tank? You need to test your water for no2, no3 and ammonia. Shrimps is specially vulnerable to water impurities.

    Did you treat your water with stability or special blend to begin with? 3 weeks is a short cycle if you don't know your water parameters.
     
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    If you are doing a natural cycle then your water is probably going through a toxic stage and that's what may have killed the shrimp. You have to wait for the cycle to complete and for your water to become inhabitable before you add livestock. See the graphs in this article for an easy explanation... Marine Aquarium Cycle - Marine Aquariums South Africa
     
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  7. Jamie

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    thanks guys, reaper he was first addition, guy at pet shop said i could introduce invertebrates at this stage...
     
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    treat shrimp just like anemones and other hard to keep corals and only add them when the tank is fully mature and stable..
     
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    You should have first tested your parameters and if they were good you should add snails and hermit crabs which are generally hardy. This is probably what he meant. Shrimps should only be added later.
     
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    You should take a sample of your water to the pet shop and ask the owner to test it. It will probably be toxic. Then ask him if he would add inverts to that water... if he says yes, then he's a moron who knows your stock will die and you will spend more at his shop.

    Do yourself a favour and take some water to the shop each time before you buy something. Have it tested. Or better yet, get yourself some testing kits, specially for the 3 main problems, the no2, no3 and ammonia. My 1st kit consisted of those, as well as phosphate, and alkaline. Then don't add any live stock before your parameters drops to well within the stable limits. Don't take chances on this, or you'll keep losing live stock. I added my first fish after only 2 weeks, but my water was treated with special blend and prime, and the parameters were stable and well below toxic levels. Then I didn't take it too slow with adding more stock, but I know the system could handle it because I kept on testing the water and made sure there's no risk.

    Having said all that, there will be times when you will lose stock from the lfs that was just not healthy... a good rule of thumb for me is I never buy a fish from a tank that has a unhealthy or dead fish in already. Also when I choose a fish, I don't always pic the biggest one, but rather the one with the brightest colour, they tend to be the healthiest.

    Hope this helps buddy. Good luck
     
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    Don't ask the lfs but rather the people on masa about new additions, we don't have anything to gain. The lfs need to make money.
     
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    okay, thanks alot guys! I will relly take things slow, Ive got a snail now..its alive...i also have a black molly (to test if water is inhabitable) and hes doing pretty well...I am only adding coral and proper livestock mid January ..will have to gets a test kit and supplements.. which supplements are best?
     
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    Don't put in a Molly while the tank is still cycling, rather test the water parameters if you want to make sure it's all good.
     
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    Is a Molly not a fresh water fish? Why would a person add a freshwater fish to a salt water aquarium just to test the water?
    This seems like a stupid way to test your water, buy a test kit rather and don't dose anything other than stability or something similar to aid in cycling your tank
     
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    i am not sure which LFS you go to, but i normally try stay neutral, but i wouldn't go there anymore, any place that suggests delicate invertebrates as first inhabitants, or any in fact without testing needs to learn about the hobby and keeping animals

    my 0.000000002c
     
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    they are a brackish water fish, they and guppies can live in both

    yes its a debated topic
     
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    That snail ain't gona last too long with dead mollies floating around the tank
     
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    It's the only lfs in bloem. Since it's the only one you would be forced to go their just don't listen to their advice.

    My 2c
     
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    There are many many reefers in bloem to assist you @Jamie. The bloem mafia is strong here.
     
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  20. Jamie

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    anyone here from bloem? If so please tell me if there are any other marine places to buy stuff from...thanks
     
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    Thanks to the wonders of the internet, and it's ability to link people, you are able to buy and get advice from people pretty much all over the world.
    Try looking up some of the forums sponsors.
    I personally have had a few conversations with Andre from Reef Aquatics, he can give you good advice and can ship you what you need. Generally within 3-4 days you can get anything from test kits to that latest skimmer not available in the stand alone marine shop in bloem. This last part is just personal preference, each to their own.
     
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