bio pellet reactor or phosphate and nitrate reactor

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  1. shaunn

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    Hi

    what is better bio pellet reactor or a phosphate and nitrate reactor

    what ihave been told is the bio pellets do a 2 in one is this ture
     
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    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Shaun its a tricky subject atm..

    the bio pellet system is for intermediate to advanced reefers as it will require some level of understanding of what to look out for in case something is going wrong.. you also generally need a bigger skimmer to run the system to remove the mulm produced by the proces and stop it from entering the display..

    this system can be implemented with ease but just needs to be persued with a bit of caution..

    i went with half the recomended pellet dosage for my system and still sat with murky water as i believe a bloom will occur untill excess nutrients are consumed.. it does consume both NO3 and PO4 but it is recomended by many to still run a seperate PO$ reactor with phos media.

    running a standard phos reactor is pretty simple but a nitrate reactor can be costly and should be run properly.. (EG: use the correct controller dosing pump and flow through the unit to achieve the low oxygen enviriment which it required to function and convert the notrate) this type of system can be costly to implement hence the bio pellet reactor whiining on price in most cases...
     
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    thx leslie
     
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    i am going to the lfs my wife is buying me a biopellet recator and media
     
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    what size is your system and what is your skimmer rated for?
     
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    my system is 400L 330L DT and about 100 L sump
     
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    and skimmer?
     
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    1000L skimer
     
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    mmm what skimmer though.. a TS will be significantly less effective than a OCTX for example...
     
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    its a Weipro thing
     
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    ah now i remember.. if i can i would advise you go with a bigger skimmer before going bio pellets..
     
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    ok then what is its true rating if it says its rated for a 1000L tank
     
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    dude you cant compare weirpro to skimmers such as reefocto and skimz for example.. they are worlds apart..
     
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    DONT DO IT! Dude you remember I showed you my skimmer, thats what you have to be looking at if you want to use bio pellets. You can screw up your system if you dont have the right skimmer. You will actually end up worse off as the excess bacteria wont be removed and no3 and po4 can leach back into the system. Stick to normal bio filtration in the mean time. You have to understand bio pellets and how they work 1st and you also need a good skimmer :)
     
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    ok i still don't see the why the weirpro skimmers are any worse than a reefoct ect could u guys explain why ?
     
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    i would place weirpro in the boyu, macro aqua and jebo skimmer class..

    there is simply no way any of those skimmers can service 1200 odd literes of water which is what some of them claim..

    if compared to even the most basic of the top end skimmers their ratings are lower than that and their pump and airdraw abilitys are far more advanced to the latter...

    its hard to explain but when you see and touch one of the higher end skimmers you will see..

    lend one from somebody and hook it up in paralell with your skimmer still running on the system and you will see how much quicker and more effieciently they pull the waste from the water..


    for me i dont mind paying for a skimmer that will do the job quickly.. after all the quicker the DOC's are pulled from the water the less pressure they present to the biological filtration...

    as for bio pellets and carbon sorce dosing.. it is the manipulation of bacteria to consume the nutrients but the bacteria also need to be removed once they have served their purpose.. if they dont they too may die off actually becoming the very thing they were designed to remove.. nutrients..

    top end skimmers will help regulate the bacteria rather removing more of it than leaving it to roam free..

    i still believe the problems i had with my yellow tangs (red blottchyness thought to be septicemia) was a result of excess mulm from my bio pellet reactor entering the system..

    read through this thread.. it may help a little..

    N/P Pellets DOES work! - Marine Aquariums of South Africa
     
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    @leslie hempel .. I read that with zeo, they say you should have the reactor after the skimmer so the mulm does not get skimmed out as it feeds corals.. Says so on the KZ site.
     
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    @shaunnorth if you want to spend money, get yourself a decent skimmer. That reef octo x160 is a good skimmer. Then you can go bio pellets.

    Comparing the weipro to eg a x160, is like comparing a little cherry qq thing to a m3. The cherry may say 250km on the dial but we all know thats a lie, were as the m3 can easily hit 250 comfortably..
     
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