Best return pump?

Discussion in 'Pumps and Waterflow' started by RiaanP, 17 Aug 2010.

  1. RiaanP

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    Which make is the best. I need another return pump, or two.
    There are pumps and then there are other pumps.

    And the criteria:
    • Water flow at 1.6 head.
    • Wattage consumed
    • Price
    Also even if pump flow is too low, but using 2 will give same reult in flow and wattage, then that it can be considered as a viable option. I notice that some pumps, using 2 of the smaller version gives you at the end more flow and less wattage, than the bigger pump. And added benefit is redundancy. One pump stops working, and you can start looking for another the next day.

    But Price is important.

    My target is between 2000 to 5000 L/h.
     
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    tunze is best.....
    sicce is also good..........
    ehim.....good
     
  4. viper357

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    Not sure which one is best but I can give you my experience with a couple of pumps.

    Aquah20 - used 2 of the big ones and both had blades break off of the impellors.

    Ocean Runner and Eheim - I have 2 x OR6500, 2 x OR2500 and 1 x Eheim 1260 - awesome pumps, never had a days trouble with them. The Eheim, one of the OR6500 and 2500 are a good couple of years old and still running strong.
     
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    Eheim and Oceanrunner. The Tunze work well also but pricey. I heard Eden alos good but dont know who stocks them. I want to try an Eden on a skimmer im busy trying to mod.
     
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    I googled these

    • Reef Octopus Water Blaster HY5000W at 5000L/h and 60W but most expensive option
    • Reef Octopus OTP 3000 at 3000L/h and 65W
    • Hailea HX6540 at 2880l/h and 100W
    • Resun King-3 2400L/h at 70W
    • Aquamedic Ocean Runner OR 2500 at 2400L/h and 38W
    • Tunzi Silence 1073.020 at 2400L/h and 30W, but second most expensive
    • Sicci Multi 4000 at 3800L/h and 67W
    Obviously prices will vary depending on where you get it.

    Other options?
     
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    From that list I see this - Reliability, price, availability of spares, local service and support, build quality, low power usage - has to be the AM Ocean Runner. :)
     
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    I made a decision some time ago that when return pumps pack up to replace with Eheim pumps. I have yet to have one burn out and poison a tank. The others (except for the TUNZE) i am afraid, seem to have this downfall. One also gets a three year warranty with the Eheim pumps.

    Most LFS stock or can get the Eheim pumps very easily. The distributor is in PTA.
     
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    Google is not my friend when I try Eheim on local search, any links please.

    Find on Ausie site
    Eheim Compact Plus 3000 at 3000L/h using 65W
     
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    Hi Riaan, look at the Sicce pumps. I have been very happy with mine which has been running for close to a year with no problems. I have the 5000l/hr model and am very impressed. I had heard plenty of positives about them before I bought and have not been disappointed.
    Good luck
     
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    process of elimination

    Due to price
    • Reef Octopus Water Blaster HY5000W at 5000L/h and 60W
    • Tunzi Silence 1073.020 at 2400L/h and 30W
    Due to heavy on fuel
    • Hailea HX6540 at 2880l/h and 100W
    Still in the running
    • Reef Octopus OTP 3000 at 3000L/h and 65W
    • Resun King-3 2400L/h at 70W
    • Aquamedic Ocean Runner OR 2500 at 2400L/h and 38W
    • Sicci Multi 4000 at 3800L/h and 67W
    • Eheim Compact Plus 3000 at 3000L/h using 65W (not sure if this on is available locally)
     
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    What about the NewJet pumps, they are nice, I have a small 1200lph one and they are very well made, made by the same guys that make Instant Ocean salt.
     
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    king-3. very strong pumps and has a generally higher pressure head. probably due to its power consumption.
     
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    Hi Riaan, just to add my 2c:whistling:Please take into consideration the head height that these pumps push and not just the flow rate and wattage. Just to give you an idea. I changed my Hailea 6550(+-6000l) which consumes quite a bit of electricity(170-190W) but has a maximimum head height of close to 6m. In comparision the Sicci 5800 has a max head height of 3.8 but uses considerably less power, but doesn't have the potential to push water as high as the Hailea. My point is don't just look at the lph, cost and wattage, but also take into consideration the height that the pump can push. If that isn't your main concern note that the other pumps will use a tad less energy if you don't plan on using the pump to push the water a great distance:)
     
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    I agree with andreas. all the pumps "still in the running" are generally good pumps with similar efficiencies so the only reason some would use more power is because it has a higher pressure head.
     
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    RiaanP Thread Starter Moderator

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    I understand head height. Most tanks water level is at around 1.5 to 1.7 meters higher than the lowest point in the sump. so that is why I originally stated a head height of 1.6m

    I also got a Dolphin P3000 pump, at 43W. Got it from Martin. Can get no more information on it. But it is a nice pump. Using it in my mixing tanks.

    Will look into the head heights tomorrow.
     
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    Cool. Just saying that don't just look at lph and wattage (and off course cost), but also the head height that a pump can push as the higher it can the more wattage they use so it's not necessarily a bad thing:thumbup:

    Personally, if I was looking for a pump for the requirement you have, I would definately go for the Eheim. I've never ever heard anything bad about those pumps and heard from many okes that they are reliable as hell. I've never owned one, but will definately look at getting one in the near future:)
     
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    at the moment i am using a ocean runner aqua medic 2500l
     
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    ok, as promised here is the head heights added.
    (Height given as number in front of name.)

    Dropped - due to price
    • 3.5 Reef Octopus Water Blaster HY5000W at 5000L/h and 60W
    • 2.0 Tunzi Silence 1073.020 at 2400L/h and 30W
    Dropped - due to consumption rate
    • 3.1 Hailea HX6540 at 2880l/h and 100W
    Still in the running
    • 3.0 Reef Octopus OTP 3000 at 3000L/h and 65W
    • 2.3 Resun King-3 2400L/h at 70W
    • 2.6 Aquamedic Ocean Runner OR 2500 at 2400L/h and 38W
    • 3.1 Sicce Multi 4000 at 3800L/h and 67W
    • 3.0 Eheim Compact Plus 3000 at 3000L/h using 65W
    Conclusions.
    Do not shoot me if I discredit your favourit pump.

    Reef Octopus Water Blaster, too expensive, and flow rate good for really big sumps and tanks. So above 1000L displays, this is an option.

    Tunzi at 2m head height should not be used on any system above 300L. Delivery rate at 1.6 with some back pressure will not be enough. Great wattage usage compared to others. So you guys with thick wallets and nano tanks. This pump is for you.

    Hailea, compete directly with Eheim and OTP-300 with flow and head height, but drop out badly on wattage usage.

    Now those still in the running.
    Resun King-3, head height the lowest, and flow also low. Good for 250 to 400L systems. Depending on your head height and back pressure.

    Aquamedic Ocean Runner OR 2500, Same flow than Resun King-3, little bit better height but half the wattage. Great pump, in my opinion. Again for upto 500L systems, this is not a bad choise.

    Last 3, not much too put one above the other
    Reef Octopus OTP 3000
    Sicce Multi 4000
    Eheim Compact Plus 3000
    All about same wattage. And same head height. But better flow for the Sicce.

    So there is only one criteria left. The Price.
     
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    Have you guys ever heard of Eden pumps they are awsome little pumps very similar to sicce smal in size use extreemly low amounts of energy and pump massive amounts of water

    Trev
     
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