Bad news for the Pet trade...

Discussion in 'Perky Pets Superstore' started by Perky Pets, 27 Jan 2015.

  1. Perky Pets

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    Just got this mail - so im not sure if someone has posted it yet ...



    Dear SAPTA member

    On Friday the 16th of January the proposed KZN Nature Conservation Bill was published for comment. It is a challenge to understand what will be required but what is important to us are the following: Pet shops in their current form in KZN will cease to exist if the proposed act is signed.

    For example there are only 98 species of fresh water and marine fish that may be traded with. No aquatic invertebrates excluding “sea monkeys” and daphnia. No corals, anemones, shrimp, snails etc.

    Then you will require a permit for ALL exotic mammals excluding laboratory rats and mice and a few domesticated species (dogs, cats etc). This means you will need permits for chinchillas, ferrets, squirrels, hamsters, sugar gliders, hedgehogs, tenrecs, primates, arctic foxes etc.

    You will require a permit for ALL exotic reptiles and amphibians (King snakes, bearded dragons etc) although there is a list of species for which you cannot get permits as they are forbidden (basically black listed) and these include but are not restricted to:
    Elaphe gutata gutata Corn snakes
    Boa constrictor constrictor Boa constrictor
    Python molurus bivittatus Burmese python
    Bitis nasicornis Nose-horned Viper
    Bitis rhinoceros Rhinoceros viper and obviously
    Chrysemys scripta Red-eared terrapin

    As far as invertebrates go these may no longer be traded with:

    Arachnids
    Family Theraphosidae All alien species of tarantula spiders
    Order Scorpionida All alien species of scorpion

    You are only allowed to own or trade in the following invertebrates
    Acheta domestica House cricket
    Artemia salina x Artemia nyos Sea-Monkey (Hybrid brine shrimp)
    Bombyx mori Domesticated silkmoth
    Daphnia magna Water flea
    Hirudo medicinalis European medicinal leech
    Tenebrio molitor Mealworm

    No super worms or cockroaches or any other invertebrates.

    Fines run up to R100 000 and / or ten years in jail for offences committed.

    In Part 1 under the section it clearly states that Registration of Facilities for Breeding and Keeping of Animals in Captivity, Types of registered facilities: Pet shops

    That means that all pet shops need to register if they intend keeping animals in captivity as a business.

    Furthermore they will all have to register as wildlife traders because it states quite clearly that:
    Registration of wildlife trader
    (1) Only a person registered by Ezemvelo KZN Wildlife as a wildlife trader in terms of Part 6 of this Chapter may trade in indigenous animal specimens, or specimens of plant species listed in Schedules 7 and 8;
    (2) Only a registered wildlife trader may apply to Ezemvelo KZN Wildlife for a standing permit in accordance with a prescribed procedure authorizing him or her to –
    (a) operate as a wildlife trader in indigenous animal specimens, and specimens of plant species listed in Schedules 7 and 8; or
    (b) convey or transport, or cause to convey or transport, such specimens.

    In the event that we cannot get a more reasonable act passed, SAPTA will be liaising with the authorities and trying to streamline the processes that will be followed in future as well as try to get approval that SAPTA handles all applications and renews the permits on an annual basis instead of expecting each store to do this alone. We will also be negotiating for a dispensation to possibly issue permits at the shop for our members (like a fishing license) for mammals or reptiles sold in the shop however this will require quite a bit of give and take. We will keep all our members updated.

    Our biggest fear is that if this legislation is passed then the other provinces will see the money that will be generated and also pass similar legislation. Just permit fees are expected to run into millions of Rands each year for the province. SAPTA is busy engaging with government at both provincial and national level and we will fight for our members and keep them posted of changes. Government can exempt certain individuals and organisations from sections of any legislation and if all else fails we will be push for this to be enacted for our members.

    If any of our members could forward comment on how this proposed bill will impact their business specifically then please forward this to us for inclusion in the comments we intend handing over at the negotiating table. We retain the right to edit any submissions made to ensure that all negotiations are kept to a cordial level. We only have this week to still give comment on the proposed bill.


    Vice Chairman
    SAPTA
     
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  3. Ferrit

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    But werent things like Ferrets already a no no in sa?
     
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    Don't fix something if it's not broken...
    What's wrong with the current system?
     
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    Yup it is a global move.

    Quiet a few South Africans have been chanting the melody for some time now. The issue seems to be passed off.

    We need to wake up, stick together in our fight to save the hobby before it is too late. iMO
     
  7. michelle34

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    I agree who going to start and sign portion and stand up agains this
     
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  8. TaahirS

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    I'm not really understanding.

    Will the kzn lfs be able to sell corals, inverts etc. but they must have a permit?
    Or not at all?
    @Perky pets @Nemos Janitor @dallasg
     
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    We can not give our hobby up like this its expensive and cost a lot maintain
     
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    This is not new news. They had a go in Gauteng last year. There is a national bill that was passed now the provinces are adding their 2cents worth.

    The legislation is complex.

    I am not going to get involved here again as I will most likely end up in an argument I do not want. All I am going to say is we need to work together to fight this.
     
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    I agree lets stand together and make this work
     
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    I own a coral on that list @dallasg

    Will it apply worldwide? I don't have the receipt but a pic would suffice:lol:
     
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    nope its for imports into usa
     
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    Soon SA will be paying the same prices as the USA,
     
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    we do, but they pay 1:1 on shipping, we pay 11:1 :)

    shipping is the biggest cost here
     
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    Not really ,aussie scoly costs about 150 USD and shipping 12$, rainbow chalice cost any where from 300 -400$ per peice! USA also have strict rules enforcing CITIES which adds costs!
     
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    @NO3 where do you get that shipping cost from?
    I import maybe 5 times a year and there are plenty hidden costs
    Namely
    I.S.S $0.1 per kg
    F.S.S $1 per kg
    A.W.B & CGC
    Origin Cert : $30
    DOCS and Handling: $250
    Box: $12
    CITIES Doc $50 + $2 per item
    Then avg $5.4 per kg
     
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    never mind the R475 locally for CITIES and then VAT
     
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    You Import from Aus?
     
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    1 shipment so far in 2013
     
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    Lets get back on track
     
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