Autopsy Help Please.

Discussion in 'Quarantine Tanks, Sick fish, QT, Coral help' started by Broder, 19 Mar 2012.

  1. Broder

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    Unfortunately my clown trigger didn't pull through. I wanted to know what led to its lack of appetite and probable starvation, so I thought I'd do an autopsy. I soon found out that I had absolutely no idea what to look for.

    I'm hoping that if I'm confronted with this situation again, that I'll be able to approach it with a little more knowledge. Clearly only a vet or someone trained in the field will be able to do a full autopsy, but I'm hoping that someone can give us some pointers on basic, common ailments that we could look for.

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    The fish was fine 2 weeks ago, other than what I thought was a mild infestation of flukes. It then spent more and more time in hiding, and not feeding with the other fish. Notice the lesion on the second white circle behind the pectoral fin.

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    Enlarged.


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    Looks normal to me, but I'm clueless.


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    The stomach contents including some spinach which was fed about 48hrs prior to it's death, the mush is probably bloodworm. There's a fair amount of sand in the contents too?




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    This irritation on the gills looks problematic?
     
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    @Paul B I'm sure Paul would help you as I've seen on his Threads that he's done a few Autopsy's...:)
     
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    On a side note, sorry to hear about the fish, it really was an amazing fish
     
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    Broder Thread Starter Mudshark

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    Thanks bud. I'm being as clinical about this as possible, but it's with a heavy heart.
     
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    MMMmm, I think I'll have sushi for lunch.

    Sorry to hear about your fish, dude... it's never nice losing one.
     
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    nice photos.
    could it be that the fish had a blockage in intestinal tract?
    the gills look fine.
    also look at the liver for irreguler colorations - it should look evenly dark red.
     
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    Hope this Link can help you...
    Fish Necropsy
     
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    Broder Thread Starter Mudshark

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    Thanks Belinda. It seems that the above statement is probably what will keep most of us from being able to make any type of diagnosis.
     
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    True...that's why I'm hoping Paul B would be able to help you as I think he is one of the few that might just know how a "healthy fish" looks like...:blush:
     
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    Examining every fish that dies (like this one) would be a good start.
    Looking at pic4 it seems that there is some gunk inbetween the fatty deposits - it could be that the intestinal tract ruptured, unless you accidentally cut it when you openened the fish up.
     
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    I can't be a hundred percent certain that I didn't damage it, as the skin is extremely tough, somewhat like shark skin, but if you look at the first cut that I made, you'll see some of that gunk already.

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    Yes I see.
    Also, a sick fish will not usually feed, the intestinal tract would be pretty empty.
    If it is full like this one, it means that something went acutely wrong.
    Look at those big rocks in it stomach...
     
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    sorry to hear Broder, sad when someone loses a fish, non reefers never understand,

    Another thing you could of done, is chuck it in tap water for a few minutes, to see what falls off,
     
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    Sorry about your fish :(
     
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