Are ATI really worth it?

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  1. 459b

    459b Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Im long overdue for a light change and have been doing some bulb shopping. I am a huge ATI fan and my past three bulb configurations have all been ATI. Before that was Geismann and before that was mix of Reeftec/Sylvania.
    With the current price of ATI, actually most "hi end" lights, i find it very hard justify paying that for bulbs. Most shops have dropped the cheaper brands and force LEDs on every customer. So i began looking at cheaper bulbs because i'm still not sure if i'm ready for LED. I pulled out an old sylvania bulb to check colour spectrum before ordering anything. When i placed it next to one of my old ATI's something struck me. Id heard a rumour that most bulbs are made in the same factory ad that the PAR of the blue sylvania is almost exactly the same as that of ATI Blue Plus..

    That's when i discovered the Sylvania Marine Star. Ive never herd of it nor seen it in any marine shops, possibly becasue3 its a cheapo bulb and i have an almost unnatural love for ATI. This light sounded uncannily similar to my favourite ATI bulb, the 15000k Coral Plus.

    Here is the spectum of the ATI Coral Plus:

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    And Sylvania Marine Star:

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    Yes, they do look a bit similar. ATI graph has been smoothed and its y-axis is much higher, but then the peak on the sylvania graph clearly extends above the upper limit of its axis. How about i merge them: [​IMG]


    Are those two lights any different? Are the slight differences artifacts from the merging process? Are the apparent minor differences even significant?
     
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  3. zippy

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    Reeftek last the same amount of time as well and are also fairly close in terms of spectrum. Sylvania's are also a very good brand with years of success and experience. My father had them over his bath water tank when I was a nipper.
     
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    I just bought ATI. Will wait and see if there is any major increase in growth. The color is fairly decent
     
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    @459b the rumour you heard is true infact ATI bulbs are made in Sylvanias factory.
     
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    459b Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Thanks @Blue Reefer . Have you ever used the Sylvanias? I recall the blues used to be readily available at petshops, but recently ive only seen the ones for freshwater
     
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    nothing wrong with sylvania
     
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    459b Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Got a quote for these lights and it will be cheaper to replace every six months than to replace ATI every 18months
     
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    @459b, Where would one buy these bulbs? I do not see them often.
     
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    459b Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Lighting companies stock them, like Lamphouse.
     
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    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    david what i like most about led is the ability to finetune colour and spectrum. if i could do that with T5 id probably still be using them.
     
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    bang for buck Reeftek are better, you can buy 2 to 4 reeftek tubes for the price of one ATI
     
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    To be honest ati is a proven brand that works..multiple totm on many international forums are using the bulbs..a friend tried using sylvania bulbs but results were not as good.

    It would be best to try to get par readings for each bulb to see..the graphs are more for kelvin ratings..you can have a good kelvin rating but big difference in par measures.
     
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    why not mix the bulbs 50/50 I did this on my system.

    imo kz bulbs are the best in terms of colours but sylvania will grow your corals just fine.

    bulbs are just one piece oft he puzzle
     
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    Agree with @leslie hempel
     
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    I saw some Sylvanias at Sams Aquarium. Didn't ask for price though.
     
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