Angels and Corals

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  1. Reaper

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    Hey,

    I'm still relatively new when it comes to sps, and currently have mostly softies in the tank. I am a Butterfly fan, but for obvious reasons cannot keep them - corals won't be too happy, hey.

    I know there's some kinds of Angels too that'll nip at corals, like the Jumping Bean. Can we maybe get some sort of idea which Angels to avoid with corals? There's obviously somewhere a list available of these Angels, but maybe there's some reefers who's had some bad Angels in their systems that can share their woes.

    Kay, so which Angels will nibble on my corals?
     
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  3. Alan

    Alan Admin MASA Contributor

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    None of the angels are 100% safe, if you want angels in a reef tank you have to hope that the individual fish wont nip at the coral, there are some that are worse than others. Generally the smaller angels are safer, the regal and majestic are also fairly safe, again i must stress that it is up to individual fish.
     
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    Exactly what I need to know, being an angel fan. Who's had what experiences with their angels, and who's had success?

    What do you have, Alan?
     
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    Pygmy angels are generally ok, with maybe a peck here and there but nothing too serious, the bigger guys will do a little more damage but is often up the individual fish as well as the diet offered.
     
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    OK, so this is a post I'll be editing as the replies come in...

    Thus far,

    Success:
    Pygmy Angel - Midasblenny
    Regal Angel - Alan
    Majestic Angel - Alan
    Blue Faced Angel - Alan

    Failures:
    Regal Angel - Alan

    Keep it coming guys, this will help out other newbies as well.
     
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    I was recently in Singapore at our livestock exporter, and was surprised to see a 1000l coral tank with many different large and dwarf angels in it. This tank was used to house and condition the angels that came in a little damaged, they would keep them here until they where back to show condition, then would join the rest.

    I asked about the angels nipping and eating the corals and they replied " We rarely have a problem with this which is alleviated once they adapt to pellet diet in one or two days". I think it is up to the individual fish and what other foods are available and how complete their diet is.
     
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    I have had sucess and failure with the Regal angel, Sucess so far with the majestic and failure with the Blue faced. All the failures have been with the LPS corals like the open brain and Blasto's.
     
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    Tank size also plays a role as if an angel is pecking on a zoanthid for eg in a 2000l tank with 20 different types of zoos they all have a peck once a day but in a smaller setup with only one zoo colony then it`ll get pecked on 20 times a day and may suffer badly or even die.
     
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    true as well, but not many have 2000liter systems... I'm just trying to get a general idea and feel of what people has experienced
     
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    Man those regal angel's are so nice that if they eat my zoo's I will not be too sad...
     
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    Hahahaha, now that's what I call a love for a fish...
     
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    Hey reaper hows it goin just to let u know i have a coral beauty in my tank and so far so good wat i observed thus far is that he picks at the rocks and so far has not eaten any of my corals , he is under close observation though
     
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    OK, so this is a post I'll be editing as the replies come in...

    Thus far,

    Success:
    Pygmy Angel - Midasblenny
    Regal Angel - Alan
    Majestic Angel - Alan
    Blue Faced Angel - Alan
    Coral Beauty Angel - Mako, Leslie
    African Pygmy Angel - Tyson(",)
    Jumping Bean - Leslie
    Black Bean - Leslie
    Flame Angel - Leslie
    Pottery Angel - Leslie
    Bi Colour Angel - Leslie

    Failures:
    Regal Angel - Alan
    Blue Faced Angel - Alan
    (Alan, maybe you should not be keeping angels mate, hehe)

    Keep it coming guys, this will help out other newbies as well.
     
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    Howzit
    So Far Ive Had Success With My African Pygmy
    May The Tankly Hood Be With U!
     
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    Blue faced Angel - No success
     
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    ne1 know of queen angels being succesfull with soft corals
     
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    i have kept a coral beauty, jumping bean, black bean, flame, potteri, and bicolour together in a lps /softie system and have had a problem when trying to introduce sps.... in general they were fine but i would not keep too many together again.. as for sps im not sure the general concencious seems to be that they are nippers and to introduce with caution...
     
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    Its so difficult to answer without resorting to a complicated chart with specific angels and various corals, and thats even without taking individual "personalities into account.

    Its when you have LPS and angels, especially any of the larger ones together that your odds are probably at there worst.

    Soft corals get off mostly OK, not zoos though. SPS are also mostly OK, if enough good food is offered.

    Clams are also enjoyed by many angels, also exacebated by not feeding copiously.
     
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    This is all true, however I'm trying to build up an "personal experiance" list here. I know the bigger angels are more likely for instance to nip, and zoa's are more likely to be nipped at, etc. I want to find out which, from individual experiences, are the most common "non nippers (for lack of a better word :lol: )" out there...

    :thumbup:
     
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    I've a jumping bean and yes it does nip at the corals but too little to actually harm them, and the bean is a good algae eater (mine only eats elgae and frozen food)
    I would say the following dwarf angels are okay (they don't REALLY do much harm, my hemits bother the corals more!):

    bean
    Bi colour
    flame

    and other dwarfs, but these seem to be the most popular...
     
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