Angel Bubble

Discussion in 'Quarantine Tanks, sick fish, QT corals' started by Hannesco, 20 Nov 2011.

  1. Hannesco

    Hannesco Hannes

    Joined:
    4 Aug 2009
    Posts:
    332
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Centurion
    Can anybody please help to identify this?

    Yesterday it was only red around the place where this "Bubble" came out. It looks like aBubble but I can also see some vanes in it.



    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. AdS Guest




    to hide all adverts.
  3. leslie hempel

    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    7 May 2007
    Posts:
    14,544
    Likes Received:
    285
    Location:
    Gonubie East London
    interesting...

    @Achilles can maybe assist us here?
     
    Last edited by a moderator: 26 Nov 2015
  4. butcherman

    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    7 Sep 2009
    Posts:
    11,626
    Likes Received:
    280
    Location:
    Kempton Park
    tagging
     
  5. Achilles

    Achilles

    Joined:
    22 Feb 2009
    Posts:
    1,050
    Likes Received:
    100
    Location:
    Cape town
    I have seen these bubbles of tissue before on my queen angel they come and go and seem to be part of the inside lining mouth/jaw of the Angel they get it after they eat, mine however where not red but clear so you may be dealing with an allergy or infection.

    I cant say what causes this it doesnt happen on all Angels but i have seen it on my Queen , it doesnt appear dangerous however your one is red so it may be more serious, i would suggest if it doesnt go away in 2 days to dose some epsom salt to the aquarium, that may help as it reduces swelling on popeye and constipation.

    Looking at the picture the redness seems to be more from blood in the tissues than an infection , i still think it will go away by itself but if not try the epsom salt, the bubbles can appear on both sides of the mouth or just one side is your only on the one side?
     
    Last edited: 21 Nov 2011
  6. Ala Jardine

    Ala Jardine

    Joined:
    19 May 2008
    Posts:
    80
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Sedgefield
    I am not sure what caused the condition, but there may be a bacterial infection associated with it. There are high concentrations of waterborne bacteria in most aquariums. These guys take advantage of less than ideal environmental conditions in the tank and establish themselves when the fish is debilitated, or physically injured. I would treat with a high quality antibiotic (as per instructions - some destroy your beneficial bacteria, which is not good). Watch that other fish don't bother the fish and try to feed vitamin enriched food, if possible. I may be completely wrong, but I don't think epsom salt is the answer, or certainly not alone. Good luck with the fish. It looks like a lovely specimen.
     
  7. SteveZi

    SteveZi

    Joined:
    2 Feb 2011
    Posts:
    795
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    Cape Agulhas
    I'm going to say it... mouth haemorrhoid:blush:
     
  8. Achilles

    Achilles

    Joined:
    22 Feb 2009
    Posts:
    1,050
    Likes Received:
    100
    Location:
    Cape town
    Stevezi I would agree with that!
     
  9. Hannesco

    Hannesco Thread Starter Hannes

    Joined:
    4 Aug 2009
    Posts:
    332
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Centurion
    Gentleman

    Thanks for the advice, this morning, I could see it's much smaller than yesterday. When I got home this afternoon it's nearly gone, but still red around the area. I will keep a close eye on it. Thanks for the advice.
     
  10. Achilles

    Achilles

    Joined:
    22 Feb 2009
    Posts:
    1,050
    Likes Received:
    100
    Location:
    Cape town
    Yes as i pointed out they come and go usually just after they have eaten, they should go away on their own , i am glad it is getting smaller
     
  11. Achilles

    Achilles

    Joined:
    22 Feb 2009
    Posts:
    1,050
    Likes Received:
    100
    Location:
    Cape town
    i suspect that when angelfish sometimes extend their mouths and trap this tissue(maybe due to food) which becomes swollen a bit like a haemmorrhoid, in this picture below you can see the tissue area , i am talking about



    [​IMG]
     
  12. Hannesco

    Hannesco Thread Starter Hannes

    Joined:
    4 Aug 2009
    Posts:
    332
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Centurion
    Thanks Achilles

    I also thing he must have damage the tissue due to food, because when at come feeding time he is the most aggressive one in the tank from flakes to nori.
     
  13. SteveZi

    SteveZi

    Joined:
    2 Feb 2011
    Posts:
    795
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    Cape Agulhas
    Hannes, its not really damage as a result of the food - as Achilles pointed out, when the fish opens its mouth, there is soft thin tissue that connects the jaws with the head (more noticable in predators like bass) anyway, some of the soft tissue inside the mouth bulges out outwords ( like taking too big a mouthful) and this tissue gets trapped between the harder parts of the jaw. it may be a small bit, but it may become inflamed, or blood cannot escape and it gets swollen (refer to pictures).
    By the way, your photos are very good and the reason for making a fairly good "clinical diagnosis".
     
  14. Hannesco

    Hannesco Thread Starter Hannes

    Joined:
    4 Aug 2009
    Posts:
    332
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Centurion

    SteveZi, thanks for the info.
     
Recent Posts

Loading...
Similar Threads - Angel Bubble Forum Date
Emperor angel Majestic Pets Solutions Monday at 14:45
stock update reef angel Majestic Pets Solutions Monday at 14:20
Angel won't eat Marine Fish Discussions 19 Nov 2016
Reef Angel South Africa Majestic Pets Solutions 2 Nov 2016
[wtd] Flameing angel Wanted 26 Oct 2016
Reef Angel (mounting float switches) Test Kits, Controllers, Reactors and Dosers 29 Aug 2016
[wtd] Flame angel Wanted 27 Aug 2016