amazing snail thing?

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  1. SHAYNE

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    Hi guys, can someone please tell me how to post pictures.
    I need some one to tell me what i have collected while snorkling last saterday at bluff.
    Dont know if its safe to keep and i dont want to kill it or my other tank mates.
    Its this amazingly colorfull snail thing.
     
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    Where you type to post you will see an "upload image sign". click on that and it will open a small window with a browse and upload sign. Click on the browse sign and get the picture off your computer as you will normally do. Dopuble click on the image and you will return to the small window. Now click upload and make sure the pic is below 288kb. The pic will appear on the top of the masa page, right click on it to copy and paste it in the block where you type you text.
     
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    Awsome stuff:yeahdude: Thanks alot Tony:thumbup:!!!
    I got this picture from google when i typed in colourfull snails:biggrin: from my cell phone but there was no info about it? i caught this exact one as well as 3 other very colourfull one's, like nothing i have ever seen before,they seem to be doing fine, even eating all the little white bugs i have on my glass, i have them from Saterday. What are they:confused1:.

    Please can i keep them:w00t:
     
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    Those are nudibranchs. Often (if not always) very specialist feeders, feeding on only one thing. THis could be a certain type of sponge, coral etc and thus very difficult to keep in our tanks. They can also release toxins when they die so are not a good thing to keep.

    As a rule - dont take anything from the ocean unless you know exactly what it is and what conditions are needed to keep it alive and healthy.
     
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    Yip as 459b said, they eat mostly one thing, and one thing only.
    And normally that one thing, is something we want in our tanks. So sorry, I will and could not keep it in my tank.
     
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    Very nice to have but as they've said it will eat everything!!!

    Also if they get stuck in a pump say bye bye to your whole tank because they poisonous.
     
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    As a rule - dont take anything from the ocean unless you know exactly what it is and what conditions are needed to keep it alive and healthy.[/QUOTE]


    Thanks alot guys. Appricate the advise alot as im trying to learn as much as possible about this awesome hobbie. i am trying some sort of local reef tank thing:) everything in my tank has been collected from one place, i go snorkling as much as possible and only in the same place, i collected all my fish, corals, inverts, substrate, Water ect and try to simulate exactly what i see in the ocean(at this place), the only reason i took these nudibranches home is because i thought they will be fine seeing as the enviroment is more or less the same as were they came from, plus i do 30% water changes every weekend, from the same place.:blush:


    But anyway, Thanks to you guys i now know what they are and did some research on them and seems, you all right!!! so i will put them back as soon as i can:(...
     
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    Lol see what happens when you dont take me snorkeling with you. I also found 2 in my tank that hitch hiked on my LR. one was black and the other clear to white with yellow and black spots on it.
     
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    tank sounds interesting...how about starting a thread (with pictures!!) about your tank.

    putting things back into the sea is not a good idea. You may introduce diseases into the sea that came from livestock you bought (this includes liverock). BEst thing to do is to find a humane way of destroying them.
     
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    I would put the poor thing back.

    The ocean is alot bigger and safer than it being in the tank. I dont think there's anyone who wants a nudi. Also does it really matter if it picked up something? Also what could be bad for the ocean. It is ofcourse large!

    I say put it back in the ocean!
     
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    diseases spread VERY quickly. If that one nudi infects two nudis, and those two in term infect another two, and those two another two......it wont take long before theres a huge problem.
    If yo dont believe me, go and read up on the lionfish in the Caribean, caulerpa in the mediterranean and the european shore crab in the western cape. There is also alot of evidence/data that shows many foreign parasites are being brought in with imported fish.
    If its been in your tank it must not be put back in the ocean.
     
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    I really must echo Davids words on this one. I am a conservation biologist, and please heed my caution when I say the best thing you can do is eauthanise it. Never collect anything unless you are sure you will be keeping it. The threat of introducing new pathogens and diseases to natural populations is exponentially greater than keeping that one individual alive. Dont let feeling sorry for yourself get in the way of doing the best thing now.

    If you decide to return the nudi to the ocean, you are being selfish, not kind. Selfish -because you feel bad about killing the animal, and would rather endanger wild populations being exposed to novel pathogens than accept the wrong you have done.

    Sorry, but i feel strongly about this. Far too many of us just transfer things freely from our tanks to the ocean. We keep corals and animals that have been flown across the globe, and then dump crud back in our local oceans. That is really really asking for problems.
     
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    And if its any consolation - the most humane way to kill it is probably freezing it in a container of water in the fridge.
     
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    LOL:lol: sorry dude but you always busy:peroni:... will call you this weekend:thumbup:.
    What happen to your Nudi's?

    I could never kill them! and i dont want to kill the ocean either:nono: so will give it my best shot and do all my research, who knows i just may be the 1st person to have a Nudi tank :biggrin:;)
     
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    As stated, everything came from the same place in the sea, so it should be safe to take them back there.
     
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    If everything in the tank came from the same place then it is probably fine to return it.

    This is not true if you have anything foreign in the tank tho. A cup of sand from another tank? Bought or swapped Frags? Fish? etc.

    Apologies for skim reading. But I think it is a very important and often overlooked fact.
     
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    i know its not nice to kill things, but in this case it is possibly your best option. One reason you dont see nudi dominated tanks is becasue nudis dont have very long lifespans (they get measured in months not years).
     
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    Not sure. The black one disappeared or I just cant find it coz of the black and white substrate and i see the white one now and then. Also hate to kill them so I just let them be. You could put them in your DSB and if they are dying you can euthanise it. Not sure if it is possible (correct me if I'm wrong), but at least you can monitor if it does somehow survive rather than letting it crawl into a rock in your DT where you cant find it, die and poison the tank.
     
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    Ok, maby i am guilty.
    I did purchase the live rock from Marco! but he told me they were also local???

    I THINK ALL YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT, BUT IM GOING TO TRY MY IDEA, and of course, will keep a very close eye on them.
     
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    Hey there buddy .... heres a tip for you .....Whatever you collect from the ocean....pop them in a bucket and take some pics .... then ask on the forums for everyones input .... then take a decision whether it goes into your tank or not ... All the time remembering NOT to mix water from your setup with the new stuff ... then you wont have a problem returning them to thre ocean .... BTW ... if I didn't do it before welcome to MASA
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