Advice - would you get a 2nd hand tank?

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  1. B2048

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    Hi

    I am looking at second-hand marine tanks. Is this advisable for a beginner?

    And if it includes the livestock how would one go about transporting it all?

    Any input would be really appreciated :D

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    I would not advise it for a beginner as you take a lot of responsibility and also need to learn a lot.

    It can be done, but it would be better to start a tank from scratch so that you can learn about the nitrogen cycle, experience the life starting on the live rock, introducing your first cleanup crew (hermit crabs, etc), learn about test kits and how to test your water while monitoring the different fases of the cycle. That's just me ;)

    It is exciting to start, and for me also to setup the tank, build the pipes, etc. There are some threads on MASA regarding moving a marine tank, it is too much to post in detail and it's Friday :p
    I'll see if I can find you something.
     
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    Since Tobes is busy planning his Friday.....

    Welcome to MASA!!!!
     
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    lol Brenda, planned already - going to work further on my new tank :1:
     
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    Thanks for the advice, Tobes. Every second-hand marine tank I expressed an interest in has been sold already!

    But I do agree that the responsibility is immediate for a second-hand tank with livestock - and I definitely do not have the experience.

    I will definitely keep an eye out for one which I can start from scratch :)

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    I will have a tank available soon, 1200X450X450 with sump, stand and hood. (Might even have a skimmer with it)

    No livestock.

    The tank will only be available in about a month (after I switch my Livestock to the new tank
     
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    Hi,
    I agree with Tobes... It is better to start from scratch.
    As you will miss out on all the excitements of a new tank!

    You can get some bargains buying second hand tanks..
    But I will not buy the life stock with it (unless it's maybe good LR with it).

    Just make 100% sure that the tank you wanna buys is not damaged in any way - or that it doesn't have scratch marks on the tank..
     
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    How much for the tank with the extras you mentioned?

    I also I'm looking into starting everything from scratch:thumbup: any places that sells glass cheap in pretoria area you guys would recommend?
     
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    Start From Scratch,its the best way of learning !!!;)
     
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    The physical glass box, I started that way, I couldn't afford a new tank, but I have kept tropicls for some time so I know what to look for on the tank to make sure I am not going to get a glass box which is going to burst on me...

    If you don't know about tanks, as advised above, buy new and make sure there are no chip makeks on any of the edges.

    I would never advise "taking over" andother tank if you are new to reef systems, there is just so much learning to do to care for the system properly and you will be swamped with unknowns and a fight for survival and it may become such a chore that you lose interest very quickly because of it.

    Learning slowly as you go is a sure way to ensure you are educated and it tends to keep the excitement of reef keeping alive.
     
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    A very WARM WELCOME to MASA, B2048! Great to have you on-board!
     
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    Welcome to MASA. Great place to start when setting up your tank. Ask lots of questions, the people here are VERY helpful.
     
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    Welcome to MASA!!

    I would suggest starting from scratch and building your tank to what you want it to be. Purchasing a secondhand tank will save you loads of money, just be 100% sure you're happy with it and check the tank out properly. You don't want to get burned on a secondhand tank and then have to fork out more money to fix it than what a new tank would've cost you, i should know...
    Starting your tank is so exciting as you get to see everything grow, go through the cycle, etc... It's so exciting to sit and stare at a empty tank with LR for hours...
     
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    Welcome mate...
     
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    Probably between 1000 and 1600 depending on if I sell the skimmer (which depends on if I use the pump on my new setup or not)
     
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    Okay, so now I'm thinking about getting a second-hand marine tank with no livestock. It's a 250L. Must still go and check it out. Should I be scared?
     
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    what kind of tank ? custom made or name brand tank ? watch out for aquah2o tanks.
     
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    Go and check out 3 to 4 tanks, keep your wallet and promises at home.

    I did check around in Nov/Dec for a 500 to 1000 L tank second hand. Boy what state were they in. Scratched marks galore, chips on corners low down. Loose euro bracing. Suspect flexing stands. Build in filter chambers that must be removed. No sumps. Some must still be drilled for overflows...

    Found a good second hand at Idol Marine. Of all places. Good price, little bit more than the Junkmail specials.

    250L is nice size for beginner.
    Depending on extras like skimmer, pumps, lights, etc. second hand can be a lot cheaper than brand new tanks.
     
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    2nd hand tanks as your main DT you need to know a little about tanks to risk it, otherwise you may end up taking home what appears to be an OK setup, all to find it costing you big in the long term. IMO - unless you know your stuff with tanks, rather just go new...
     
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