Advice : New Tank Build

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  1. Express Reef

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    Good Day All,

    After my tank have been running now for almost 3 months, I detected a minor leak of about 3mm a day, very small...:( Lucky I took Tobes advice to stock up very slow...

    The Plan: To start up my Nano cube (Frag Tank) 500 x 500 x 350. To move my sailfin tang and clean up cube with my 3 corals...

    Then start building a new tank:):thumbup: (10mm glass)

    Current tank: 1200 x 600 x 600 water level @ 580 with a coast to coast overflow...

    Want to build a tank 1200 x 600 x 600 again but lower water level... with a coast to coast overflow...

    Need advice, what is the best way to silicone a tank? was thinking to cut the glass 2mm shorter and space it so that the glass dont touch with a 2mm silicone seam... ? and make use of polished glass edges?

    Can anyone of the tank builders give some advice?
     
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    Here's how I have always built my tanks.

    I always get polished and beveled edges because it makes the glass easier to work with and the finished product is a lot more professional. I also always build the base inside the sides instead of the sides on top of the base. It is a much better way of building tanks and I feel a lot easier.

    For your size tank the glass pieces you would order will be:

    2 off 1200mm x 600mm
    2 off 576mm x 600mm
    1 off 576mm x 1176mm (This is all assuming 10mm glass thickness)

    I personally would go for 12mm and then have a rimless tank. I would also go with a 500mm high tank with water level at 460mm.
     
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    :thumbup: Thanx Manic, How about spacing the glass so that the glass dont touch nowhere, so that the silicone makes like a 2mm seam?
     
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    That is a good way to go as you get a more flexible tank and less chance of glass touching glass and breaking itself.:)
     
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    @ Bob the (reef)builder; Thanx, any advice from yourside?:thumbup::peroni:
     
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    Sure what advice are you needing?
     
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    @ Bob the (reef)builder; Overflow, I like a coast to coast? Advice when drilling the tank:whistling:
    Best way to do the return line?
     
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    where would you position the overflow? back or side?

    if you go rimless i would personally go with a thicker front pane vs the sides and back (assuming the back is to have the overflow placed as a back coast to coast) as this will strengthen the back pane...

    my front on my 1.5m x .400 x .700 (10mm braceless) bowed hence me suggesting a thicker front.. but you may get away with it with a 1.2m length..

    as for cusioning the edges with a seam of glue its a good idea..it will also provide a neater black edge without and possibility of squeezing all the glue out and possibly seeing the other pane the glass is bonded to..

    i personally prefer to build ontop of the base, unless the tank is large (2.5m +).. but its dependant on what you find easier..
     
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    @leslie hempel; the overflow will be at the back, how would you do the return line, run it on the sides to pump from front to back?
     
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    im not sure how to explain it but i am liking what i saw on the idol marine and TRS tanks where the slimline overflow has areas where the return comes up it.. i will try find a picture of an example to show you..
     
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    here is a pic...
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    plumbing underneath...
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    how you attach the bulkhead...
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    you've been thanked kind sir :)
     
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    That's what those measurements are for. If you look the side panels are 4mm shorter than they need to be to give you 2mm of silicone on each side.
     
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    @leslie hempel; looks good, is it a skinny coast to coast wit two small boxes in the corners? Can really see how big the back part is... or is the entire back part one thing?

    @Manic; thanx, need to make 110% sure cant affort to have a tank that goes to waste in 3months time again, my new tank needs to be flexible and strong...

    Thanx for all the input :thumbup::peroni:

    My current tanks return line goes up at the back (outside) splits with a T going to each side with a elbow to the front, so the return water push from the front of the tank to the back of the tank to the coast to coast...
     
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    express reef, it will look like this... do a search for different types overflows on MASA, this image was taken from there...
    image 1
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    image 2
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    image 3
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    the tank pic i posted is basically image 1 with 1 of image 3 on each side if that makes sense.
     
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    @Manic; @leslie hempel; I decided to build my tank as follows:

    1200L x 600W x 580H with water level 550H

    The glass will be cut as follows:
    Back panel 1200mm x 580mm (10mm)
    Front panel 1200mm x 580mm (12mm)
    Side panels 574mm x 580mm x "2" (10mm)
    Bottom panel 574mm x 1176mm (10mm) ----> hope my calculations is correct?
    Polished edges with no bracing... Coast 2 Coast overflow

    :thumbup:
     
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    The price difference between 10mm and 12mm is not that much. Why don't you rather go for 12mm back and base. I know the overflow will strengthen the back panel but rather be safe than sorry.
     
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    @Manic; well if the price difference is not much, why not... then 12mm we go :thumbup:
     
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