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Discussion in 'Biological/Natural Filtration and Deep Sand Beds' started by SALTY, 1 Dec 2007.

  1. SALTY

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    I need some assistance please from all the pro's.
    I want to build an external sump for my little 24g Nano cube.I want to create more water volume, add a skimmer,run a little DSB, and pump through a little chiller back to my little tank. I have a little cupboard next to the nano that I will utilize, but as always "space is the big problem. Attached is a rough sketch of what I am thinking of.(sorry but have not learnt the sketchup yet). Next to this little sump, I want to put the chiller.
    I am thinking of Reeftek TS1 in first chamber.Does anyone know what the water level should be for it to operate in am optimal manner? Then it will overflow and run between the channels on top of DSB until it reaches the return compartment.From there I will pump to chiller on to my tank. What do you guys think?? Will it work??
    How deep must my sandbed be? ie: 150mm 200mm? I will use playsand, and beg for a cup of "matured" sand from someone. Where should I keep my heater?
    I just want to "jack" up my system, and get a better quality through my nano. I hope the pro's agree with what I am thinking. I await your response with great anticipation. Thanks in advance

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    Salty, is this what you had in mind?

    I cant see it not working
     
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    SALTY Thread Starter

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    Thanks Kanga. Yes, much better to actually see it in your drawing(well, now it's my drawing thanks) What do you think the height of the sump should be?(6mm glass). And how deep must the sandbed be to be effectice?? Water level above that?? Thanks again fot the trouble on the drawing.
     
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    Cant see why it wont work, DSB should be at least 10-12cm deep.
     
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    Thanks Alan. I was thinking of between 10 and 15 mm. Needed confirmation. Does it matter how high the water level is above the actual bed of sand? Would you want a slow moving or fast moving water without obviously disturbing the bed?
     
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    Yeah thats fine for height, make sure your water level is such that if the pump goes off, that the water that would siphon back has enough space in the sump.

    My sump has about 20cm water flowing over the DSB if that helps

    Flow should be about 10X the water volume per hour through the sump.
     
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    Kanga Retired Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Only a pleasure, I must warn you though you did ask for the pros, the only thing I am pro at is drinking Peroni:1::lol:
     
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    Hi Kanga, can I ask what program u are using to draw the design.
     
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    Google Sketchup, simple to use I have quite a nice PDF tutorial that I can email to you if you like.(Mods Is there a way we could add the PDF file to a directory or so for guys to download when they like)

    It is a free download, about 30meg if I remember correctly
    http://sketchup.google.com/
     
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    Yip, click on Post Reply then look for the paperclip at the top of the reply box :)
     
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    Kanga Retired Moderator MASA Contributor

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    OK one loads but the nice one is too big OldManViper, make it work now:nono::1:
     

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    Sorry boss, you have 1meg limit now boss.
     
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    Thanks Viper, no lets not have any more insolent incidents from yourself. OK?:whistling:
     

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    Salty, I would add a small pump in the same chamber for the chiller. Maybe a king1 or so, the nice thing about having it there is that the over flow will regulate water level. In otherwords you wont run the of overfilling it or running it dry regardless whether the pump runs or not
     
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