To all users, you need to be AWARE when buying or selling over the internet on the forum. There are a few issues I need to highlight.... First off, there are too many cases of people getting sold different or incorrect items, sick fish etc. My advice to you, be 1000% sure you know what you are buying BEFORE you hand over any money, if you do not know the person, find someone else that you know that knows them, someone that has been around for a while, do not just blindly send a stranger money. Yes we like to think of each other as friends and family on the forum, but the truth is there are some nasties out there that couldn't care less what they sell. The majority of users are trustworthy, but it only takes one bad apple to ruin your whole experience of the forum and leave a sour taste in your mouth for the hobby, so be careful. Take this for example from someone that sold a second hand skimmer... There was no mention of any electrical issue in the sale. Nor was there a photo of it, the person buying it had no knowledge of this issue. But when received, this is what met the buyer... When they received the skimmer and plugged it in it tripped the electricity. See video... This issue was thankfully resolved but it was a nasty experience for everyone. I'm not blaming anyone in this issue, I am merely using it as an example. It is due to issues like this that we are so hard arsed with people not posting pics of things for sale, we do it to try and protect everyone involved, not to be a pain in your backside. So when buying from someone, before you hand over your hard earned money, Ask Questions, Ask for lots of photo's, Ask about any issues or repairs that have been done. If the seller is reluctant to give you any additional information or additional photo's then walk away from the sale, they may be hiding something. Next issue...is buying from people that contact you via PM. It is against the forums rules to sell to people via PM. If you are found to be doing this, you will be banned, no questions asked, no kissy kissy, no saying sorry, nothing. It is against our rules and it is grossly unfair to the sponsors that pay to advertise and sell on the website. For the private members you have the For Sale forum to freely use at your will. People that sell via PM obviously have something to hide, be it their identity or dodgy fish or crappy equipment, who knows, but there is a reason why they are not using the For Sale forum. MASA does not support backyard sellers, people that import a box or two of fish every now and again and sell them from their moms garage. If you buy from these people and something goes wrong, you're on your own, you have no recourse against them, yes you can say the Consumer Act protects you, but in all honesty, the amount of time you are going to spend trying to get your money back is just not worth it when you could have simply been more careful when buying. If you buy from someone via PM, we WILL NOT help you, it is against the rules to buy and sell via PM, so if you do and it goes pear shaped, you're on your own I'm afraid. We will only assist where we can in a sale if the sale has been done in the For Sale forum. Last thing for now is the iTrader system we have - use it! We have the iTrader system in place for you. When in the sales threads, every person has a trader rating, it will show 0 if they have no ratings yet, and then positive or negative ratings. See pics for example...the clickable number where it says "Feedback Score". Ratings can also be seen on any users profile page. All buyers and sellers can use this to rate their experience, please do use it as others can then be made aware of any potential issues. We have found that members that have caused problems in the public forum tend to resort to selling via PM in the hopes that people won't pick up on their previous transgressions. If you are selling on this website we expect you to be upfront and honest in your sale, declare everything you know about anything you sell, if we find sellers that have been dishonest or devious or 'forgot to mention', your access to the sales forum will be removed. And on a final note, please do not turn this thread into a debate about dibs. MASA has no stance on dibs, it is entirely up to you if you want to use it or not. If you are not willing to entertain dibs then state that in your thread. Simple. Thank you for taking the time to read this.