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Old 16-04-2012   #1
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please could you tell me when these products will be available in sa and what the recommended retail price would be?
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Old 17-04-2012   #2
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One of the sponsors told me they have arrived and are already at a few LFS , so keep an eye on the LFS near you that has brightwell products.

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There is also a Red Sea version available the last few weeks at the local LFS 's. Same idea
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Hi Mandarinman. Mc is right. Your best bet would be to ask your LFS to please order it for you if they don't have it in stock. They're in stock by us and ready to be dispatched. Of course shops are welcome to charge what prices they see fit, but for advertising purposes then the following prices are a rough guide:

Xport-NO3 150g - R239
Xport-NO3 300g - R417
Xport-PO4 350g - R524
Xport-PO4 700g - R962
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There is also a Red Sea version available the last few weeks at the local LFS 's. Same idea
The RedSea one is in liquid form , and is used as a short term thing,
But this one is a media, like small balls that you put in a filter bag.
Correct me if i'm wrong.
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Hi Mandarinman. Mc is right. Your best bet would be to ask your LFS to please order it for you if they don't have it in stock. They're in stock by us and ready to be dispatched. Of course shops are welcome to charge what prices they see fit, but for advertising purposes then the following prices are a rough guide:

Xport-NO3 150g - R239
Xport-NO3 300g - R417
Xport-PO4 350g - R524
Xport-PO4 700g - R962
Are these regenerable?
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The RedSea one is in liquid form , and is used as a short term thing,
But this one is a media, like small balls that you put in a filter bag.
Correct me if i'm wrong.
O ok my mistake
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No, not regenerable like NitratR or PhosphatR. But if you have a bad phosphate problem and need to get it sorted right away, then Brightwell's PhosphatE (liquid) is very potent. 1ml removes 1ppm phosphates in 15L of water. Just be careful not to drop your phosphates to undetectable levels too quick. I would use a liquid product to bring down the phosphates, then move over to normal media (like Xport, ROWAphos, ATI's Phosphat Stop, Phosguard, ExtraxPhos, etc.) for maintenance.
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No, not regenerable like NitratR or PhosphatR. But if you have a bad phosphate problem and need to get it sorted right away, then Brightwell's PhosphatE (liquid) is very potent. 1ml removes 1ppm phosphates in 15L of water. Just be careful not to drop your phosphates to undetectable levels too quick. I would use a liquid product to bring down the phosphates, then move over to normal media (like Xport, ROWAphos, ATI's Phosphat Stop, Phosguard, ExtraxPhos, etc.) for maintenance.
What is the advantage of NitratR and PhosphatR over the Red Sea Po4 No3 remover?
are they more or less the same?
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volume versus performance maybe?
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Red Sea's NO3 PO4 is a liquid carbon source, which would be more similar to Brightwell's BioFuel or Prodibio's Bioptim. All are liquid carbon sources. Then there's solid carbon sources like the N/P pellets. PhosphatR & NitratR are rechargeable media that strips those nutrients (nitrates or phosphates) from the water column. Personally, we prefer solid carbon sources. We've tried liquids before too.

In a nutshell, a carbon source (if it's the limiting factor in your tank) allows bacteria to uptake nitrogen (nitrates) and phosphorous (phosphates) in their structure as they grow. Thereby helping your system to naturally reduce nutrients (NO3 & PO4 ). The excess bacterioplankton/nutrients are then eventually harvested (uptake by corals as food, removed by skimming or mechanical filtration, or skimmed directly from the outlet of a pellet reactor). Of course this is a very vague description and there are many factors involved. But all things must be present in a certain ratio for it to work (Bacteria & PO4 & NO3 & a Carbon Source).
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So as an ongoing nutrient control program, should I be looking to swap my Purigen, carbon and extraxphos for the newer Xport range (NO3, BIO and PO4 )?

(Although i'd prob still run carbon as it removes other impurities and polishes water...)
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I have put xport no3 and po4 in my sump. it is a type of media that will break down no3 and po4 . It needs carbon and potassium availability.
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BTW, my system runs at about 5-7.5ppm NO3 , undetectable PO4 (but I think this is because I have an outbreak of bryopsis at the moment, so the algae is using it up).

I run a BSD (+- 3 months old) and an algae scrubber which seems to harvest green, red and brown cyano as well as the green hair like algae... I have a reef octo extreme 200 (rated at 1500L on the Dorry pets website)...

I feed heavily and have a mixed reef of SPS LPS and softies...
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Its up to you whether you swap or combine. The thing is you still want something that will remove other impurities from the water.
I still have my purigen and chemi-pure as well as the xport NO3 , but I must say I didn't find purigen or chemi-pure that effective at controlling nitrates and in the two weeks of using xport NO3 my nitrate have come down from 50 to 20 and I have increased my feeding.

I still have phosgaurd at the moment but I will consider switching to xport PO4 when it runs out.

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For the PO4 as well? I see the PO4 media doesn't require soaking in bacteria before addition to the tank; that is, it works chemically...? Or am I wrong...

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I didn't find purigen or chemi-pure that effective at controlling nitrates and in the two weeks of using xport NO3 my nitrate have come down from 50 to 20 and I have increased my feeding.
Sounds awesome... Do you measure Potassium at all? How does this affect it? Do you dose a carbon source?

Sorry about all the Q's...
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I don't measure potassium so I wouldn't know about that.
I use brightwells Alkalin 8.4 for a carbon source and I mix it in with my ATO water.

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Mc there is a difference between carbon and a carbonate source. biofuel wouls work bettr
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